Schools and the ye old way!

[ORC-r0x0r-ROC]

We need more specialisation in schools; I think the old way was pretty good. Why don't we revert back to teaching trades? I mean every day in school we learn loads of crap that will never be useful in future life. 90% of what you learn at school is completely useless in future life; by secondry school we should be learning trades. What do you think? (fook I forgot a poll )

[Jason]

I go to a vocational school, they teach trades there.

[Iskover]

Originally posted by ORC-r0x0r-ROC
We need more specialisation in schools; I think the old way was pretty good. Why don't we revert back to teaching trades? I mean every day in school we learn loads of crap that will never be useful in future life. 90% of what you learn at school is completely useless in future life; by secondry school we should be learning trades. What do you think? (fook I forgot a poll )

Actually 90% of what we learn in school is useful in future life.

Math is important for solving problems and working with numbers.

Reading is VERY important so we can understand what we're looking at that has words and so we can communicate.

Language Arts is important so we can properly make complete thoughts.

Writing is important because well... It's just... related to reading.

I guess science and social studies are important...

So school is very important.

[Forged]

I had the optiobn to go to a vocational school but decided not to because all of my friends went to the reg one so it still is an option.

History = "Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it"

Math = I really don't see the point in anything above Algebra but...

English = I speak english and read on a college level I don't see why I need this anymore...

Science = Why do I need to learn about chemistry and physics again? Biology yes, chemistry no....

[ORC-r0x0r-ROC]

Actually 90% of what we learn in school is useful in future life.

Tell me how algebra is usefull. Or how knowing the periodic table off by heart helps you in financing or how being good at media studies helps you if you grow up to be a soilder. We have to think realistically here. Look, I said by secondry school we should be getting taught trades so you already know how to read and work out sums.

History = "Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it"

How would knowing that famous quote help you if you're a engineer. By secondry school or college you should be learning the things that will help you in a job.

[Forged]

knowing that famous quote would help you because you would know how things were and know what did and did not work for everyone. We did not learn about anythin in my elementary level schools.

That and I like History

[ORC-r0x0r-ROC]

We did geography and history in my primary school.

were and know what did and did not work for everyone

Wouldn't you know that anyway?

[killer900]

history is EXTREAMLY important, and have you noticed that americans ARE bound to repeat history anyways....

science and math are the two MOST important subjects EVER! if you didn't know how numbers work (which i'm pretty sure you don't) you can never be expected to become anything with numbers, and EVERYTHING has numbers in it. science is THE MOST IMPORTANT subject EVER CREATED! how are you expected to know anything if you don't know how anything works, science is the thing that explains EVERYTHING. i challenge you to find something that does not have anything to do with science or math. just go find something, and i'll find how it's connected.

english and reading or important, but i don't see why we need to take it so long... all my teacher does is go over commas, and i'm in a pre-ap class...

100% of what you learn in school is useful...

[QOUTE] How would knowing that famous qoute help you if you're an engineer. [/QOUTE]

hahaha, your so funny.... if you got passed 2nd grade you would know that history studies the past, not qoutes... and if your an engineer you need to know what people have had tried to do without succes, and then you just basically have to do the opposite, but not in all cases...

so agian 100% of what you learn in school is useful, and i don't care if you like school are not, you have to go so your're not homeless or something. but hey if you want to be a proffesional hobo fine by me...

[ORC-r0x0r-ROC]

science and math are the two MOST important subjects EVER!

They are the most important so what?

if you didn't know how numbers work (which i'm pretty sure you don't) you can never be expected to become anything with numbers, and EVERYTHING has numbers in it.

Was that supposed to be a flame? You learn numbers in primary.

i challenge you to find something that does not have anything to do with science or math. just go find something, and i'll find how it's connected.

What does being a historian have to do with it? What does being a mechanic have to do with knowing algebra? Believe me most of the nonsense of dribble you learn in school isn't neccessary. If you start specialising and learning just the stuff that you NEED in a future job.

100% of what you learn in school is useful...

Nope.

hahaha, your so funny.... if you got passed 2nd grade you would know that history studies the past, not qoutes... and if your an engineer you need to know what people have had tried to do without succes, and then you just basically have to do the opposite, but not in all cases...

If you passed the 2nd grade then you could actually spell "quote". Someone a long time ago said "People who do not know history are doomed to repeat it". That is the past. It means that you could end up making the same mistakes if you don't know what they were. If you were a qualified engineer explain exactly how history would help you.

Unless you spend your life trying to get on shows like "who wants to be a millionaire" most of the rubbish you learn you wont find helpful.

[cxoli]

i challenge you to find something that does not have anything to do with science or math. just go find something, and i'll find how it's connected.

Things that have nothing to do with science or math include religion, morals, emotions, etc. Anything you can't prove by math or science is basically unrelated to either subject. Therefore, if you wanted to be a pastor, anything else connected to religion, a philosopher, a psychologist, etc., science and math really aren't relevant.

100% of what you learn in school is useful...

In eighth grade my teacher taught us that f*ck is an acronym. How is that useful to me in any way? It's not like it's going to help me get a job.

so agian 100% of what you learn in school is useful, and i don't care if you like school are not, you have to go so your're not homeless or something. but hey if you want to be a proffesional hobo fine by me...

I'm being forced to take Spanish, yet I don't ever plan to visit or live in any Spanish-speaking country. In fact, I plan on moving to Japan. So how, exactly, is learning to speak Spanish useful to me?

Unless you spend your life trying to get on shows like "who wants to be a millionaire" most of the rubbish you learn you wont find helpful.

I agree. Why waste time learning facts I'm going to forget in a matter of days when I could be learning things valuable to the job I want when I'm older?

[ORC-r0x0r-ROC]

I agree. Why waste time learning facts I'm going to forget in a matter of days when I could be learning things valuable to the job I want when I'm older?

I also believe that schools shuld teach children how to handle a credit card and how to do things cheaply to avoid debt, insurance, how and when to get a loan and teach the stuff that is crucial to basic living.

[cxoli]

I also believe that schools shuld teach children how to handle a credit card and how to do things cheaply to avoid debt, insurance, how and when to get a loan and teach the stuff that is crucial to basic living.

Yeah, that would be a much better use of our time. It's a lot more practical. That sort of stuff is going to be a lot more important to me then most of the stuff I'm learning in school right now will ever be.

[ORC-r0x0r-ROC]

They should be more pratical because I don't think any employer cares if you know what order the alphabet is in(lol but I just realised it don't matter) or if you can name all the states of America.

[Forged]

In most countries orc if you want to go to college you go through the rubble of shit you don't need but if you know what you want to do after primary school you go to a trade school. It seems to work for other countries so I think it would work for us.

#By other countries I was reffering to Mexico which is the only other country I really know much about.

[ORC-r0x0r-ROC]

Yeah, if they don't know spefically what they want to do give them some more time to choose but I don't think there should be cases like this because we should be advising them and asking the what they really want to do at a early age.

[Forged]

I still don't want to know what I want to do and I am 18...

I wanted to be a marine biologist then a comp proggramer an now I kind of want to be a teacher but I am not sure exactlly.

[ORC-r0x0r-ROC]

That's what I mean, they should be giving more advice and at a early age too. They do it in my school but it is like in year 9/10 or sommot and in my opinion it is too late. I'm afraid of choosing a job really = /.

[Hot Action Akule]

Originally posted by ORC-r0x0r-ROC
I also believe that schools shuld teach children how to handle a credit card and how to do things cheaply to avoid debt, insurance, how and when to get a loan and teach the stuff that is crucial to basic living.

you're a ****ing moron...

Money managment. Most schools have it dill weed.


And 80% of what you learn is useful. Taxes require good math skills. And i guarentee that you will most likely change your degree at least once. Almost every does it. The way school is designed now is to let you have a basic concept of every subject so you arent screwed when you want to switch from engineer or mathamatician to teacher or vet.

[twistedeuphoria]

What we need is not one extreme or the other. We need to have a school system where semester to semester you can pick what classes you want to take alongside a vocational learning program.

[Jaden]

welll i don't know what your school systems are like. In Australia you have the choice of some vocational training. which counts as a subject for your higher school certificate (last year of school) you cna do whatever you like. Or you can leave in year 10 and do a traineeship which is for most apprentice things like electrician, plumber, builder, painter, draftsmen, millions really.... we have psychology and business studies legal studies aswell as all the normal ones like english maths etc. i don't understand what you COULDN"T use in your future life. we have careers classes to teach us about what different jobs entail. all of what you learn is useful. you just have to choose what is of use to you personally... how is that hard? i don't think you should be able to pick semester by semester... most courses are longer than that. well here anyway. but above all you are learning how to interact with others, how to learn, how to be organised, hand things in on time, meet deadlines, respect authority, if you aren't learning THOSE things then something is wrong with your school.. or more likely .. you