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11-12-2007, 07:28 PM
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| Who is going to win their parties nomination? Who do you think is going to win the Democratic/Republican Parties nomination?
For me it's going to be one of the 4 scenarios.
Obama vs. Guiliani
Obama Vs. Thompson
Clinton Vs. Guiliani
Clinton Vs. Thompson
The only wild card match-ups I can see happening is maybe a possible Mitt Romney & Ron Paul on the republican side.
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11-12-2007, 09:37 PM
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| I see Rudy Giuliani getting the Republican nomination.
Mitt Romney has got a heavy front-loading schedule. His support in many of the early states is huge, but it's still a gamble for him in the later primaries. If he gets the momentum rolling from winning Iowa and New Hampshire, he might have a shot, if his front-loading strategy turns out to be a bust, he's got abysmal support in the later primary states and his campaign will implode.
Fred Thompson's campaign's been stagnant since his entry into the race. He's still got big support and big endorsements, but doesn't seem to be capitalizing on the momentum he had when he decided to enter the race. I don't see his campaign progressing much further.
Mike Huckabee is probably the only other candidate that has a chance at winning the nomination. He's got the legions of the Christian right on his side, plus he's been capitalizing on his surprise showing at the Ames Straw Poll awhile back. That being said, his support is still mainly from the Christian right and his name recognition is still low when compared to the main frontrunners. However, I think he's the most likely to overtake Giuliani.
The other candidates: Ron Paul has support a mile deep, but only an inch wide. His legions are unwaveringly fanatical, but he's still got low name recognition. John McCain's campaign has been collapsing. Tancredo and Hunter are so far right that they're like jokes.
Giuliani's lead isn't secure, unlike Clinton's. Clinton has an almost blanket lead in most state polls, while Giuliani's been trailing in a few. If any of the other candidates can get the ball rolling during the primaries, Giuliani's campaign may collapse.
I see Clinton winning the Democratic nomination.
Obama and Edwards have ganged up on her, but she's become the alpha wolf in the media's eyes, while Obama and Edwards are trying to overtake her. In effect, she's become the sole "front-runner" for the Democratic party, while Obama and Edwards and second-tier front-runners.
Richardson's campaign has totally collapsed since just a few months ago.
Biden's campaign has been somewhat stagnant.
Dodd's a nobody.
Gravel's a joke.
Kucinich is a coked-out joke.
Clinton's been torn apart in the media by her fellow candidates and random people. To take all that and only lose a few percentage points is a testament to her power right now. She's not likely to lose enough support to lose the nomination.
Clinton vs. Giuliani. Eeww. I'd vote neither. =\
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11-12-2007, 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by B)ushid(o
Clinton vs. Giuliani. Eeww. I'd vote neither. =\ | Id vote for Giuliani over Clinton any day. Why? that b*tch scares me. Shes about as liberal as you can go.
I like Mike Huckabee for the Republican nomination. By no means am I far right but i agree that with some of his stances such as giving back to our veterans. Did you know that 1/4 of the homeless population are veterans and the military and goverment are not willing to do anything for them? How sad is it that they put their lives on the line for our freedoms and we treat them like dirt in return. He also is pro-life.
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11-13-2007, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by B)ushid(o The other candidates: Ron Paul has support a mile deep, but only an inch wide. His legions are unwaveringly fanatical, but he's still got low name recognition. | Don't put too much weight on that low name recognition - in 1991 people were saying "whose this Bill guy?". Ron Paul's early November polls from CNN and Rassmussen place him at 5-6% nation-wide, just as low as another unknown candidate from 1991. Not to mention, the stuff Ron Paul can do with the 5+ million from on hand at the beginning of this quarter and 8+ million already this quarter.
For the Democrat's, I think it's going to be Hillary and am hoping that it will be.
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11-13-2007, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Tipsy Don't put too much weight on that low name recognition - in 1991 people were saying "whose this Bill guy?". Ron Paul's early November polls from CNN and Rassmussen place him at 5-6% nation-wide, just as low as another unknown candidate from 1991. Not to mention, the stuff Ron Paul can do with the 5+ million from on hand at the beginning of this quarter and 8+ million already this quarter.
For the Democrat's, I think it's going to be Hillary and am hoping that it will be. | Ron Paul will not win the Republican party nomination. He would be better off running as an independent with some of his political views.
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11-13-2007, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by N[u]TS Ron Paul will not win the Republican party nomination. | And why is that? Quote: |
Originally Posted by Nuts He would be better off running as an independent with some of his political views. | Since when aren't small government, individual rights, and free markets a Republican platform? It's the embodiment of 'Mr.Conservative'.
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11-14-2007, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Tipsy And why is that?
Since when aren't small government, individual rights, and free markets a Republican platform? It's the embodiment of 'Mr.Conservative'. | I said some... not all Tipsy. Being against the war will deminish his chances at being the nominee for the Republican Party. Secondly for being against the Patriot Act. Its an issue that ruffles the feathers of any American since it is in violation of your right to privacy. YET, when terrorism comes into play. I for one see saving lives as more importand than my own privacy. Hell if they were to listen to my phone conversations or read my email they would be wasting their time. I myself was one agains the Patriot Act but now I have developed a better understanding as to why it was implamented.
I understand you Tipsy may have totally different views when it comes to these issues but hey these are my opinions as to why I think he will not win the nomination. The election is just under a year away -- still time to sway the voters 
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11-14-2007, 05:23 PM
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| Rudy will most likely win.
I really do not want to see Hilary in the Office. The more I read about her the less and less I like about her. I don't care that some woman would go into office. But a lot of people would vote for her because on that issue alone. I don't think that is right either. Plus, I really dislike her Medicare views. A lot.
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11-14-2007, 06:25 PM
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| As long as it isn't Bush...I am 100% satisfied haha. |
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11-15-2007, 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Lizardbreath As long as it isn't Bush...I am 100% satisfied haha. | So your being sexist here... you dont want a woman as president!? lol jk LB Quote: |
really do not want to see Hilary in the Office. The more I read about her the less and less I like about her. I don't care that some woman would go into office. But a lot of people would vote for her because on that issue alone. I don't think that is right either. Plus, I really dislike her Medicare views. A lot.
| Yea, It really is sad how some people vote. Thats why I am glad we still have the electoral college around. Founding fathers = brilliant but they needed to lay off the weed. Makes it hard to understand the constitution lol jk but you would thinks so with some of the wording.
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11-16-2007, 08:14 AM
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| Sadly it's going to be Rudy and Clinton.
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11-20-2007, 01:50 AM
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| Ron Paul revolution.
Only real conservative. Only conservative anyone should vote for. |
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11-20-2007, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Tipsy And why is that?
Since when aren't small government, individual rights, and free markets a Republican platform? It's the embodiment of 'Mr.Conservative'. | I'm not sure if you've payed any attention at all to the last 16 years of this government, but republicans no longer hold true to small government.
Ron Paul wants to completely abolish income tax, and the IRS, things the GOP would definitely not go for. He is also far too much of a hard nosed realist and is vehemently opposed to the fiat based money system not just the United States uses, but the entire global market. Gold and silver based tender is not valid for international use, it's too costly to trade and there are too many south American countries that use the US dollar as a backing to their own specie.
As much as I honestly really do agree with many of his points, he's too much of a realist and at times a libertarian, there is no way he will win the Republican presedential nomination. |
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