saddam is now dead

[betaalpha5]

what are your thoughts on this? should be have been hung or should he be rotting in a cell? should he have been given a more modern and less cruel form of execution?

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[Hitsua]

Well, it wasn't up to the United States Government, it was up to the Iraqi, and hanging is fairly typical...

[Roach Of Discord]

Personally I've never seen eye to eye with the whole "kill someone for killing someone" logic..so of course I was against it. Besides, what message does that send out? It's okay to kill someone, as long as the "good guys" do it? The hanging in general seemed pretty barbaric..but the main thing that got me was how publicized it was. I'm surprised it wasn't televised..thank gawd it wasn't.

I'm guessing people creamed themselves when they heard he died...and that just disturbs me. Overall, I didn't cry when he was hung..but I didn't skip with glee either. I see no justice in murder, it brings no one back, it fixes nothing.

[Galatia]

Executions never solved any problems.

[Wing Zero]

it seems that humans will always have a sense of an eye for an eye

we went from one death device to another over the years and yet we still have problems with it. they still continue to find another device as if they can find a new way to kill some one with out pain

[Ashigaru]

Originally Posted by Galatia

Executions never solved any problems.

No, they just remove the problem.

What do you suggest? Life in prison for killing 1000s of people? Liberal pansy

[x42bn6]

I think he was killed because his life allows people who support Saddam to have an excuse to try and free him and Saddam's words could well be made public and stir up trouble.

As I have said time and time again, the trial was a farce, the war was a farce, and he was convicted from these methods. This is not democracy, nor is it on any grounds fair!

Killing a murderer will always seem hypocritical to me. As a Muslim nation, they should know that only God has the right to take the life of a person. Here, God did not say anything. The United States did. Iraq did. Under false pretences.*

[lollercoasterzster]

Execution has been a penalty for war crimes in the past, and so it continues. In some cases killing may seem harsh or redundant, but often it's the best way to make a point. Hanging was the choice of people in Iraq. I saw something about it on the news this morning and they had a video of some of it and it looked like it took place in a room specially designed for hangings, I think they mentioned he had used the same building to kill many many people. I guess that makes the punishment fitting...

[None293823]

Originally Posted by Ashigaru

No, they just remove the problem.

What do you suggest? Life in prison for killing 1000s of people? Liberal pansy

Hello ? 21st century here not Middle Ages. Wars and death penalties are just not the way to solve problems. If this solves the problem as if lying in the jail for life doesnt, thats very primitive thinking. The problem of the world today is that it cannot understand that.

[x42bn6]

Originally Posted by lollercoasterzster

Execution has been a penalty for war crimes in the past, and so it continues. In some cases killing may seem harsh or redundant, but often it's the best way to make a point. Hanging was the choice of people in Iraq. I saw something about it on the news this morning and they had a video of some of it and it looked like it took place in a room specially designed for hangings, I think they mentioned he had used the same building to kill many many people. I guess that makes the punishment fitting...

Revenge is never a form of greatness. Nobody deserves to die.*

[Jenny!]

He should be glad his death was quick. He deserved a slow, painful death with a mix of torture to match his crimes.

[Roach Of Discord]

Someone sounds like an angry Arnold. I don't see the point in 'matching' the crime..that sinks us down to their level, making us no better.

[Jenny!]

So he should be able to sit in a cell, be sheltered, eat 2/3 meals a day, and be out of harms way? There are people who would kill for a place to live, free food, and safety. So, we would give it to someone who has killed numerous innocents? No thanks. If the world worked like it should all heinous crimes should be rewarded with death. Rapes, murders, kidnappings, and hate crimes don't deserve a better result.

[x42bn6]

But then again, isn't it wrong to kill someone for revenge?

He would be a prime candidate for assassination, though, if he was alive. Polonium-infected water?

The reason I am against death for such a criminal is because death is the easy way out.*

[N[U]TS]

Originally Posted by x42bn6

But then
The reason I am against death for such a criminal is because death is the easy way out.*

I agree, death is the easy way out. I also agree with Jenny on how easy life would become living in a cell where you are severed meals daily. Im sorry but I feel my tax dollars are being wasted on people who end up in the pen time and time again.

I say enforce disciplinairy punshisment. Depending on how bad the crime is the punishment could range from community service to lashes with a whip or other objects to inflict mild to sever pain. Barbaric? I think not for the fact it will make a criminal think twice before committing the same crime twice or any other crime. I mean cmon I was brought up on disciplinairy punishment spankings etc. Even in sports disciplinairy punshiment is enforced. Why should capital murder and rapists get off so easily?

as for Saddam well death is irreversabel unless God brings you back.

[x42bn6]

And I will be truly scared if he is brought back to life. Because he is a Muslim, Allah will judge him, and I don't think it will go down well.

Either way, corporal punishment is always an iffy issue because it borders on torture. I am more of a fan that Saddam should have worked to pay off his own bill in prison.*

[lollercoasterzster]

To say you're opposed to death because it's the easy way out is a bit of a conflict in your views. If it were truly the easy way out, then is it not more vengeful and spiteful to deny someone the easy way out? If killing is wrong, but living is worse, why be opposed to killing for the purpose of revenge?

[x42bn6]

He deserves a fair trial and the world deserves to know the truth from it.*

[N[U]TS]

Originally Posted by x42bn6

And I wI am more of a fan that Saddam should have worked to pay off his own bill in prison.*

Yea sure while at the same time tax payers pay for him to pay off his own bill. I strongly disagree

[Roach Of Discord]

The "easy way out" argument isn't my reasoning, but I've heard many people use that (which I still don't get anyway). I simply think that killing someone for killing is the stupidest use of logic possible, and is rather disgusting. I really don't care if my tax money went towards him sleeping in a sell, eating, etc... because personally, the notion that "justice" is served by murder disturbs me to a greater extent. Yeah, I don't think that human's hold the right to decide who lives or dies, period. I think in doing so, you lower yourself to their level..and well, that may be okay for some, but not me. I see the executioners, the people who took joy in watching the hanging, the ones who gathered around to video tape it, etc, just as sick.

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Not to mention, the death penalty system is flawed as is..in situations aside from Saddam. I don't support it for various reasons, but that's beyond the realm of this thread.