Right to Die

[torrid mind]

wow gen some argument...
I agree the government should have no say if someone wants to be taken off life support. I think this is a very personal issue that is best addressed by familly and doctors. If this man has no chance of living off life support and he is ready to "move on" then I think he has that right.
really I don't think government should have any say of what we do to our own bodies. I know that when I get old and sick and really have no reson to live I would be ready to die. plus Im kinda excited to see what/if anything is on the other side of life.
if the purpose has been taken out of your life then really whats the point? so your familly wont cry? so you can live out another day of suffering? really who wants to live once your body can't support itself and you know the end is near? that really is emotionall suffering. put yourself in this guys shoes, if you had to have your diper changed (or worse have a tube in there) you can't walk or take care of yourself, you just lie in bed all day, wouldn't you want to just get it over with?
for some though death can be a happy time becuase they think/know they could be in a better place without suffering.
and I would hope that if there is a god, he wouldn't turn a person away just becuase he wanted his life ended. I would hope he/she/it would be kind and understanding. I don't like this idea of a wrathfull god....

anyways..... let him die.

[shimshimheyxD]

It is easy for atheists to say that "let the man kill himself, no other person has the right to stop him"

But since religion has influenced the entire world, people think twice. IN the religion of Christianity and others, commiting suicide will send you straight to hell because you ruined what God created.

This also depends what religion the Italian judge is.

[Chris]

Euthanisa shouldn't really be a law breaking issue, unless the person has a chance to save his life. Its been a common debate for quite a long time, we do it to our dogs (which is quite heartbreaking), we do it to horses if thier legs are broken (some do it with a gun), why can't they do it to a terminally ill man?

Originally Posted by shim

This also depends what religion the Italian judge is.

However, in religious terms: It goes against the commandment "Thou shall not kill". Because it is really cutting thier life support and killing him. If he was a really religious man, he would obviously have a reason, trhough faith, not to allow them to do it.

[little-cheeze]

why cant he just snap his own neck or slit his wrists and take a hot bath or something?

[The Sweet Love]

He is probably not in the right frame of mind to make that kind of choice. If he wants he can sign a DNR?

[SouLess]

Suicide is illegal in the US, but you can't do anything about it if they're dead and most of the time if you survive a suicide attempt you get charged with attempted suicide, but it gets thrown out due to temp insanity. That is if you're caught.

[Eric]

Originally Posted by Chris

Euthanisa shouldn't really be a law breaking issue, unless the person has a chance to save his life. Its been a common debate for quite a long time, we do it to our dogs (which is quite heartbreaking), we do it to horses if thier legs are broken (some do it with a gun), why can't they do it to a terminally ill man?



However, in religious terms: It goes against the commandment "Thou shall not kill". Because it is really cutting thier life support and killing him. If he was a really religious man, he would obviously have a reason, trhough faith, not to allow them to do it.

Horses have not been euthanized for ages, buddy. We're well past that.

[little-cheeze]

well id never kill myself

[Vadriel]

Isn't it awesome how suicide is the only crime in the US that can only be punished if it fails?

Personally, I'm pretty much in favor of the guy's right to go when he wants to go. A man in that situation doesn't have any control over anything in his life anymore, you'd think we'd be decent enough not to rob his control over the last thing he has left, his own miserable life...

But then, people are dicks. In general.

[SouLess]

Originally Posted by Vadriel

Isn't it awesome how suicide is the only crime in the US that can only be punished if it fails?

Sorry, I guess I forgot "Attempted Manslaughter", "Attempted Murder", "Attempted Breaking and Entering", "Attempted Distribution of Narcatocs". I could go on, but that wouldn't make you look to good.

[Lizardbreath]

Originally Posted by SouLeSS

Suicide is illegal in the US, but you can't do anything about it if they're dead and most of the time if you survive a suicide attempt you get charged with attempted suicide, but it gets thrown out due to temp insanity. That is if you're caught.

Pleading insanity doesn't necessarily guarantee you a free ride. If you do happen to get away with it you get stuck having to go to psychologists for years and you have to go to court every couple of months for a review of your problem.

[Vadriel]

Originally Posted by SouLeSS

Sorry, I guess I forgot "Attempted Manslaughter", "Attempted Murder", "Attempted Breaking and Entering", "Attempted Distribution of Narcatocs". I could go on, but that wouldn't make you look to good.

Note: Attempted = different from Succeeded. Attempted is oddly enough succeeding at failing. So, it's a crime that is only punished if committed...like most. If you attempt something murder and fail, you aren't being charged with Murder, you're being charged with Attempted Murder, in which you succeeded.

Besides I left off the last half of the quote. It's originally "Suicide is the only crime in the US that can only be punished if it fails, and can't be punished if it succeeds." Forgot about how nit-picky and anxious people on this forum are to surgically take apart everything someone says and use it as grounds for an insult. Should have made damn sure every post I make is flawless.

[Lizardbreath]

I just like it how some people on here think they are lawyers and know everything about the law when they haven't even been to law school or court.

[SouLess]

Sorry, but "It's the only law that it punishable if failed" and "It's the only law that is punishable if failed, and not if succedded" are two COMPLETELY different things.

[Vadriel]

I know, my bad for leaving out half the quote, you do have me there.

However, you don't need to get all up on my grill when I slip, Grayson.

[SouLess]

Who the **** is Grayson?

[Vadriel]

Maybe the movies are different from the comic.

Then again, I may be completely comic illiterate...it could be "Gracen." Not sure, never seen it in print.

I was calling you a dick. Wasn't Dick Grayson (Gracen?) Robin's real name? Ugh. I figured you'd get it.

[Sonic_Moronic]

Well, if the government did approved it, who knows, doctors would maybe be scared of doing a great crime.

But i suppose they could just choose some random person to do it.

I just hate being in pain which cannot stop. He suffers a great deal for wanting to end his life, and now nothing. Suffer, old man...
Darn, i think there is nothing worse than pain that can stop, being phisical or not.

[Bizzy Bone]

ROFL WRONG TOPIC!!!
DID ANYONE SEE WHAT I TYPED??

[SouLess]

Originally Posted by Vadriel

Maybe the movies are different from the comic.

Then again, I may be completely comic illiterate...it could be "Gracen." Not sure, never seen it in print.

I was calling you a dick. Wasn't Dick Grayson (Gracen?) Robin's real name? Ugh. I figured you'd get it.

Robin I/Red Robin/Nightwing, yes.

What's your point and what does that have to do with all this?