Fur

[x42bn6]

What are your thoughts on clothes made by animals' fur?

Personally, I abhor the thought of having animals' fur on me. However, this is not the issue, it is the issue regarding the way the animals are treated before death. PETA claims the animals are given electric shocks are have their necks broken before they are skinned, and some are skinned alive, before being released once again.

There are organisations representing these clothes and they do have standards for slaughter. However, I don't think these clothes should be allowed. Firstly, it is impossible to fully prove that an animal is dead before being skinned and there is no way of telling if someone just went and shot the animal dead. Secondly, isn't it horrific that so many animals have to die just to make clothing we can make out of plants? Thirdly, some of the animals being killed are becoming rare or endangered.

I hate clothes made of fur. Animals should not be tokens of mankind's domination.*

[Korittke]

I agree with you. However, I do eat animals and animal products. IMHO, the only reason animals should be killed and used is for the delivery of food. The reason for this is relatively simple. I find nutrition to be of extremely high importance, in contrast to things such as clothing or hunting for fun.
From a moral standpoint, it doesn't really matter though. I could live perfectly healthy as a vegetarian. I just chose not to because A) Animals taste good and B) I couldn't be bummed to find (and pay for) equally protein-rich and lean foods. Quite basically it boils down to the fact that my behaviour is, in it's essence, inconsequent and hypocritical. The only thing I have good hope for is the fact that I'm at least aware of this problem. Still, I can't really tolerate fur, even if I'd like to. It's just totally pointless to wear fur if you can wear fake fur... or just something else. Eating meat isn't THAT pointless.

[Jimbo]

I'm a vegetarian so my opinion should be obvious.

Also, there are regulations in the meat industry too, but most of the time they arn't followed. I'm pretty sure it's the same with the fur industry too.

Edit- and peta's claims are pretty correct. Most of the time the animals are still alive when they are skinned, or de feathered

[lollercoasterzster]

what about sheep fur?

[Neolch]

Ignorance is no excuse anymore. As Cavemen we often killed animals for food and fur, but now in this age, we do not need to kill animals for fur. Sure, if you are making Fox Biscuits you can, and should, use the fur (less you be wasteful). But in general we have plants and such to use. Less expensive for us, and warmer (sometimes).

[x42bn6]

Originally Posted by lollercoasterzster

what about sheep fur?

Wool shearing does not hurt the sheep. Sheep can survive fairly easily without it, and farmers keep them well nutured because they grow wool back again anyway. As for leopards, they die easily because they are not well-adapted without it. Some are left to die.*

[Emperor Pan I]

Originally Posted by Jim Morrison

Edit- and peta's claims are pretty correct. Most of the time the animals are still alive when they are skinned, or de feathered

You know that for a fact? You ever been to an institution where they extract fur from an animal, and have proof they were alive?

Animals are just that, animals. They are just another resource to be exploited by men with money. It's the food chain, and we're on top. I'm only on this planted for the next 60-70 years, I'm not going to see the fall of men and the rise of animal overlords, so it really doesn't matter. I'm going to enjoy the animal fur with the few decades I have left.

[Snagg]

We have a responsibility for not only ourselves but also our future generations to provide sustainable standards of living. We can't just tap all our resources and make everything extinct. It would not be responsible citizens of us.

[x42bn6]

Originally Posted by Mike

You know that for a fact? You ever been to an institution where they extract fur from an animal, and have proof they were alive?

Animals are just that, animals. They are just another resource to be exploited by men with money. It's the food chain, and we're on top. I'm only on this planted for the next 60-70 years, I'm not going to see the fall of men and the rise of animal overlords, so it really doesn't matter. I'm going to enjoy the animal fur with the few decades I have left.

Surely there must be some sympathy in you?

The ways they kill animals can be barbaric, although admittedly PETA is not really the best organisation when it comes to animal rights - even animal rights lovers criticise it.*

[Bizzy Bone]

well we arent on top of the food chain, unless we have our trusty guns that we depend our life on.
i doubt anyone here can man handle a wild big cat or another animal equal size of the person.ive been getting some homework on bobcats and similar species attacking humans because the humans WALKS through the ANIMALS territory.
i dont know where im going with this but,If the hiker gets attacked or just stared at, they(Whatever organization the hiker calls after being harassed, i think Fish and Game is one.) go automaticlly kill it.Even tho hikers know damn well, "ok im going into the wild where other animals can kill me in a heartbeat but im going to risk it anyway and if it attacks me hopefully ill live and kill him." How messed up is that? To the animal, your just another animal/meat it see's everyday they dont have logic like us and think "if i eat him, more people will come after me and kill me , so i wont attack him"
My point is i think thats messed up when your clearly walking into other animals territory , get attacked and then go hunt it down. Many say becuz the animal has tasted "Man-Flesh" its going to hunt more. I dont think so.I can understand if your living in the mountains and a big cat comes thru your yard killing your livestock or threatning your family ( problem here in northern cali) anyway im going to a friends house so ill come back and edit some more and hopefully get good replies

oh yah and that part about animals being just a "resource" BS. Without animals, this world will fall. You think only HUmans make the world go round? nope. Insects/Animals and every creature put in their work keeping this world going.I think of it like this (may be immature but w/e)
What if you hear someone catching a homeless person and Skinning him? He has no family no friends and no future so lets just kill him for the hell of it (same mentality the people use to skin animals,since they clearly just do it for money and dont care about it being a Living creature.) What would you think now?
The only difference is we are humans, animals still feel pain breath eat crap and everything else (a living creature.) some have emotions and some can even form a bond.

[Sonic_Moronic]

I never liked fur clothes. Animals are for food, and i support that , but this is just mean. I mean, we need food, but this is only for famous people to show around. Killing animals just to look better? Gross. Those people aren't gonna die for wearing normal clothes.

More and more animals are becoming endangered. Can we really allow that? In a few hundred years, i assume, people will be able to keep only cats and dogs as pets. Maybe bunnies, sheeps and something other too, but there is certainly gonna be less animals.
Fur is not the only problem. There are many ways of killing animals just for luxury. Like hunters. My dad is a hunter, but i dont still support that. Its fine when we get a nice dinner of what he hunted, but keeping an animal head in the house just to show off? Thats barbaric. An open way to show that you LIKE that you killed that animal for fun, not just to have a good meal.

[x42bn6]

Another problem is the fact fur is associated with luxury, something that should be discouraged. Fur is not a sign of luxury - it is a sign of cruelty.*

[Roach Of Discord]

I'm totally against it, for various reasons.

Of course, if an animal is going to be killed for food..and you don't want to waste the rest of the animal, then fine...make a coat; but it's pretty sad to raise an animal just to make a new jacket out of it. Animals are worth more than that.