Sex

[Tipsy]

Basically what is sex to you? More specifically, do you put value on the act of sex itself or the pleasure that comes from it?

The mainstream culture stresses the concept of just for fun sex that has no consequences. If you want sex merely because of its fun, why do you have any bias against any form of sex (for those that do)?

For example, amongst many guys hold the view that lesbians or bisexual girls are okay, but shutter at the thought of it two gay guys. Or you can push it even further and talk about having sex with dead corpses or with animals (assuming the animal will not be hurt).

It's not a challenge to any specific person's beliefs, but rather a cultural bias.

Note: I'm using the term sex very loosely.

[Lizardbreath]

Sex to me is mainly for pleasure. I don't have gay sex but I don't care if people want to have gay sex. I however think sex with animals is disgusting and should never be allowed.

[Tipsy]

Originally Posted by Lt. Commander

Sex to me is mainly for pleasure. I don't have gay sex but I don't care if people want to have gay sex. I however think sex with animals is disgusting and should never be allowed.

Since for you sex is for pleasure, are you open to having gay sex? And why exactly is sex with animals disgusting? If sex is for pleasure then why would it matter who it is with (assuming there are no safety risks and things of this sort)?

[Lizardbreath]

Originally Posted by Tipsy

Since for you sex is for pleasure, are you open to having gay sex? And why exactly is sex with animals disgusting? If sex is for pleasure then why would it matter who it is with (assuming there are no safety risks and things of this sort)?

But it depends on how you get that pleasure. I see no pleasure in having sex with a man, dog, etc. However, I do get pleasure from having sex with a women. You're taking this too literally.

[Tipsy]

Originally Posted by Lt. Commander

But it depends on how you get that pleasure. I see no pleasure in having sex with a man, dog, etc. However, I do get pleasure from having sex with a women. You're taking this too literally.

So if it's more than the literal pleasure of enjoying then what is important? What makes it important that it be a woman rather than a man or an animal? If you need someone to talk to or identify with then I can see the need for a human partner, but what reason is it a woman over a man? Your body feels the same thing from the very similar actions you would do with the different people. If it isn't solely pleasure, then I restate the question: "what is sex to you"?

[Lizardbreath]

Originally Posted by Tipsy

So if it's more than the literal pleasure of enjoying then what is important? What makes it important that it be a woman rather than a man or an animal? If you need someone to talk to or identify with then I can see the need for a human partner, but what reason is it a woman over a man? Your body feels the same thing from the very similar actions you would do with the different people. If it isn't solely pleasure, then I restate the question: "what is sex to you"?

Pleasure can only be obtained by certain actions which the mind deems pleasurable.

[Tipsy]

Originally Posted by Lt. Commander

Pleasure can only be obtained by certain actions which the mind deems pleasurable.

That's not true. Rape victims, victims of sexual abuse, and people who fall victim to similar situations still feel the pleasure of sex (in situations where there is really 'sex', not situations in which biologically only one person can feel physical pleasure) - you cannot simply ignore the biology of the human body. What can result is emotional stress or guilt or something else along those lines independent of the pleasure. Normally you feel these if you believe you have done something wrong. That, and other answers to why you feel emotional stress, leads to the question, why do you find it distasteful? You don't have to be attracted to your partner to have pleasure. You don't have to like your partner to have pleasure. People still have sex with people of their sexual preference even if they don't like the person or find them attractive.

[Laharl]

Personally I see it as slightly recreational, something I do and have done among and with my friends - people I know are clean. Since none of us can become pregnant, it's even more safe.

[TrOiK]

Sex to me is mainly like love the girl I have sex with is going to be the one I love its not for pleasure to me and the goal in life to me is not getting laid its to find the girl and have a family.

[Aternyth]

I see sex as an act of passion, not pleasure. I personally am waiting to give my virginity to a person I love. This doesn't necessarily mean that I'll wait till marriage, though. I know a lot of people who have relationship with girls just for sex, and not for love. I believe that this is morally wrong. You should have sex with someone you love, not just for the pleasurable feeling that comes with it. I'm not going to go out and get laid just for the hell of it.

[Arxces]

I'm going to progress the above point a step further: sex should only be done with your lawfully wedded husband/wife, someone you love so much you're willing to make the ultimate commitment...

[Roach Of Discord]

Sex is more of a physical thing IMO, than mental. Love and sex are two different things...but often go hand in hand, because many people feel that they should be having sex with the ones they 'love'.

I guess what's "right" and "wrong" when it comes to sex, is all about what society tells us. Men are suppose to be with women, visa versa...humans aren't suppose to have sex with animals, etc. We grow up knowing this, so..for the most part, we believe what we're told..and everything else seems wrong.

If we all grew up being told sex with dogs is perfectly fine, no one would think twice before sexing up fito.

It all boils down, IMO to what people are taught, and what they grow up feeling.

Sex isn't THAT clear-cut though, and why we are attracted to certain individuals can't be known for sure. For instance, in my opinion, gays are attracted to the same sex naturally...just as straights are, and probably pedophiles. As I said, in some cases, it really goes against what society or culture says...so it can't always be explained in a logical or rational way.

..but in my views, I don't see anything wrong with 'just having sex'. It doesn't always have to mean something...or be about love. Sex is a physical response...and it's something everyone needs...and should probably have

[AZN_FLEA]

i heard that sex becomes more enjoyable in a long term relationship where intimacy is existant.
most teens have sex because of peer pressure. if no one cared if your virgin or not you might not have sex until 30.
i do believe sex is a physical thing but can mean more than that. sex with a man will never be the same as sex with a woman

[simpleforce]

to answer your question of y do guys think lesbs are ok. Lets think what happens when 2 guys do it, all kinds of stds right? 2 girls = nothing.
Now lets consider multiple wives. Y isn't there such a thing as multiple husbands?

All in all i wanna say, 2 guys = gay = just wrong. 2 girls = wrong = i dont care.

[SouLess]

Well, I'll put it into my perspective. I've had sex with over 100 women. Go me, right?

Probably out of them, 5 of them ment something more than just a waggle on my ****. The woman I'm with now isn't the best sex I've ever had physically, but spiritally and emotionally theres no one that will top her.

[KCspdracer]

Sex is a part of life. It is a normal human function. It should be done with someone you are in love with but most of the time thats not the case. I do get pleasure out of it but I also make sure that my wife gets pleasure out of it too.

Homosexuality is wrong in IMO but not because of religeous reasons. But quite frankly I dont care what 2 guys or 2 women do in their bedrooms. I just wish they would keep that to themselves and not force it down our throats.

[Speaker]

I'm Catholic. so instead of a long rant on what i think, if you know the main jist about sex only after marriage, and not just for pleasure, then that is how i view it. Sex is something to be respected and not abused, one of the most intimate and special things you can do with your spouse, and to abuse it is something that should never be done. but yea, i have morals and values to account for

[x42bn6]

Originally Posted by simpleforce

to answer your question of y do guys think lesbs are ok. Lets think what happens when 2 guys do it, all kinds of stds right? 2 girls = nothing.
Now lets consider multiple wives. Y isn't there such a thing as multiple husbands?

All in all i wanna say, 2 guys = gay = just wrong. 2 girls = wrong = i dont care.

You can catch STDs by transfer of fluids like saliva, so any two people can catch STDs.*

[c9h13no3]

Stop pushing your morality on others. If you believe it's wrong to get dirty with a hamster in your rear end, why does everyone else? Whatever you do in the privacy of your own home is none of my business or anyone elses.

I personally think sex is great. Been dating the same chick for 4 years, and rather than write out why it's great, I'm just gonna leave it for you to figure out.

[Jason]

I get what Tipsy is saying. He's basically saying that your body will recieve pleasure given the right physical stimulant no matter it's origin.

For example: Say you're blind and deaf. You are about to be pleasured as a man, by another man. You do not know he is a man because you were not told he was, nor can you see or hear him. He starts to give you a blow job. You feel the pleasure of it and enjoy it. Yet, you're a perfectly heterosexual person.

This is basically what he's getting at. The fact that you're aware of something that is culturally or morally wrong makes you think you won't enjoy it, but had you not known this then you would try it and realize you'd enjoy it anyways.