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micro.micro · 09-12-2006, 08:27 PM

In my opinion, yes we are really giving it to these guys. like, adult porn is ok but child porn isn't? yet if the child is digitized i.e. cartoon drawn or a young looking adult then it's ok? wtf?

(btw i'm going to just put out the fact that i'm 18 and NOT a pedofile in case some of you guys wanna go out and accuse me of that.)

i think that a few cases of sickos going all crazy on little girls has really created a bad stigma on the population of people attracted to the younger age group. it really is a sad double standard where if a young child likes an adult i.e. stacy has a crush on her teacher it's cute but if it's vice-versa society suddenly goes all balistic and pulls these charges out of their ass.

like it's really annoying how suddenly being gay is alright yet being a pedofile isn't. people say "love should be all that matters." but if these 2 people love each other but there is an age gap suddenly "love" isn't all that matters to society. (i would have brought up incest too, but i'll save that for another day).

but like i said earlier, it's the few crimes with the help of the media that have really blown this thing out of proportion. suddenly you should feel very very very ashamed and think you're a bad person if you think to yourself "oh that little girl is really cute". i mean honestly, kids getting molested by adults attracts a huge media scandal and everyone hates pedofiles yet when a man does the exact same crime to a woman his age it attracts no media attention and nobody hates all men in general. i think it's the sick minded we should be angry at and not the pedofiles and by sick minded i mean anyone that just goes out forcing someone into sexual intercourse. i mean really it's just a person's preference as to whom they're attracted to so who are we to judge? back in ancient greece homosexuality was accepted and so was a relationship between a young boy and a man. does this have any relavance with today's society? not really, but all i'm saying is that if they could accept something like this back in the day, why can't we fight the stupid stigma and accept it too?

~~Jimbo~~ · 09-12-2006, 08:46 PM

If some guy goes out and rapes little kids just for the fact that they are little, then that is wrong.

But, if an 18 year old is doing stuff with a 17 year old, i think as long as the underaged person is "mature" enough to make their own minds up.

Alot of it comes down to people thinking you are magicly able to make decisions when you are 18.

Tipsy · 09-12-2006, 09:29 PM

I'm fairly certain that the reason why there are laws against child pornography is to stop kids from being exploited. That's the reason why the cartoons are legal, they don't exploit a child.

As for pedophiles, I don't see any reason why they would be intrinsically bad. Whatever your personal preference is, you should have the freedom to pursue it - to an extent.

The final thing I wanted to comment on is the phrase you used, "all you need is love." You might be implying it, but I just want to emphasize one thing. All you need is consent. The question is, at what age is a person able to understand their choices and be able to consent? Right now, its basically eighteen with exceptions here and there. This also ties into when a minor could consent to doing pornography.

**Emperor Pan I** · 09-12-2006, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Morrison

Alot of it comes down to people thinking you are magicly able to make decisions when you are 18.

Umm... no. It's called the age of majority for the reason that a country specifies at what age the Majority should be mature enough to consent. Which is also why tehre is a "close in age exemption" where being below the age of consent doesn't matter.

As for pedophiles... They touch children.. **** them.

x42bn6 · 09-12-2006, 10:19 PM

The law says that anyone below the age of consent cannot make judgements like these for themselves... The law is there to protect them. In other words, if a 14-year-old girl says she wants to have sex with a 60-year-old man, then her word is worth nothing. Consent, if anything, may only lessen the sentence put onto the other person in the eyes of the jury.

So are paedophiles being treated harshly? No. As "mature" adults, they should know that they should only mess with adults and not those who are still deemed innocent.*

~~Jimbo~~ · 09-12-2006, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Stiver

Umm... no. It's called the age of majority for the reason that a country specifies at what age the Majority should be mature enough to consent. Which is also why tehre is a "close in age exemption" where being below the age of consent doesn't matter.

As for pedophiles... They touch children.. **** them.

Note, 18 is the age of consent here in the USA.

Laharl · 09-12-2006, 11:13 PM

No offense, but the last time I was even close to being innocent was when I was eleven.

And technically my first boyfriend and I "molested" each other. Make sense? Not really.

AZN_FLEA · 09-13-2006, 04:34 AM

rofl. still going about that bull**** again haha (retarded ****)

pedophiles are being treated harshly. if a 14 year old girl wanted to **** a 60 year old man she should be able to. imo the government is infringing on OUR RIGHTS to be able to make our own decisions and live for ourselves.

why is the government even doing this **** if its an extremist right wing country?

x42bn6 · 09-13-2006, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by AZN_FLEA

rofl. still going about that bull**** again haha (retarded ****)

pedophiles are being treated harshly. if a 14 year old girl wanted to **** a 60 year old man she should be able to. imo the government is infringing on OUR RIGHTS to be able to make our own decisions and live for ourselves.

why is the government even doing this **** if its an extremist right wing country?

14-year-old girls usually also want a car, dead parents, breast implants, liposuction, no food because they get fat, fifty boyfriends attending to their every whim and no PMS. Do we allow them to? No. Until you are independent or the law declares you so, your parents are your guardians and you are not free.*

-Azrael666- · 09-13-2006, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by x42bn6

14-year-old girls usually also want a car, dead parents, breast implants, liposuction, no food because they get fat, fifty boyfriends attending to their every whim and no PMS. Do we allow them to? No. Until you are independent or the law declares you so, your parents are your guardians and you are not free.*

The age of consent in many countries, most of Canada, and parts of the United States is fourteen. Pedophilia isn't wrong if the underaged party is of a sound, mature mind, and it's consensual, regardless of the laws.

~~Ashigaru~~ · 09-13-2006, 11:37 AM

Figures you'd say that. And where is it 14 in the US? Lowest I've heard of is 17.

Laharl · 09-13-2006, 11:40 AM

I know for a fact that it's fourteen in Canada.

But, if I may ask a question: What if both people are underaged?

-Azrael666- · 09-13-2006, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Ashigaru

Figures you'd say that. And where is it 14 in the US? Lowest I've heard of is 17.

You're right, it would figure, seeing as if I said the opposite, I'd be going against what I practice.

And I originally meant to say it was low (some countries don't even have an age of conesnt). The lowest I know of in the United States is 16, although it could be lower somewhere.

Edit: Just checked Google, and South Carolina is 14. Not sure if there are more.

**Emperor Pan I** · 09-13-2006, 12:32 PM

Actualy they are raising the age of consent in Canada from 14 to 16.

Personaly I don't think you should even have sex until 20 or marriage, just because. But even if you are physicaly mature enough to do it at 14, doesn't mean you should. It is well known that during the age between 12 and 19 you are going through changes. Even if you have grown completely, and you beleive to have finished puberty, that isn't always the case. You chemicaly are constantly fluxuating, which is one reason teens like to moan about being depressed or misunderstood is becuase you are still maturing psychologicaly. So until you are at least 20 your decisions arn't always rational, and Teens generally don't stop to think of the bigger picture as many adults do. That is one reason why parents and teens don't always get along or agree because Teens see the world differently

-Azrael666- · 09-13-2006, 12:44 PM

Is it just me, or is it ****ed up that the age of consent in Yemen is 9, but you also have to be married? Wow.

Anyways, the age of consent in Canada being raised to 16 doesn't affect me. Maybe in two years from now they'll raise it to 18 *shrug*

Laharl · 09-13-2006, 12:50 PM

I ask again: Would it be illegal for two underage people to have 'sex' - of course as their 'own idea'?

Oh, well.

Personally, I'd have it set to twelve, as with the legal drinking age.

**Emperor Pan I** · 09-13-2006, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by -Azrael666-

Is it just me, or is it ****ed up that the age of consent in Yemen is 9, but you also have to be married? Wow.

You legaly have to be married to have sex, so if you have the person you want to be married to at 9, more power to you. It basicly was set at 9, because that was teh age of the onset of puberty in many people, and was the marriagable age (since you need to be married to have sex.)