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| Harry Potter from Rons point of view?
Still isn't more than something writen from a differnet point of view, same old bull****. | 
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Originally Posted by Venice_native Harry Potter from Rons point of view? |
uh??? whered u get that from | 
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04-07-2006, 12:05 AM
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| It's the Bible from a different point of view, being it's Harry Potter from Rons point of view, same story, same bull****. | |
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04-07-2006, 12:26 AM
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| well, i guess. but they found this gospel in egypt, and for 30 years have been studying it and making sure its genuine; and it is. they discovered its authentic and everything.
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04-07-2006, 09:34 AM
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| i dont believe anyways 
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| From what I just looked up about it, if it is verified, it will just be another Gnostic Gospel. From my viewpoint it will teach us about early Gnosticism, but it won't be a new revelation for Christianity.
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04-09-2006, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Venice_native Harry Potter from Rons point of view? | Ya but ron never hung himself after telling that blonde kid he was the son of god.
Anyway I think Judas is the man whose book should be put out.
The whole Judas as a traitor thing is bull**** and hopefully Tipsy with all his/her brainwashed knowledge can help me out on this one.
Why was Judas seen as a bad man. He only did what was expected of him, I think Jesus should of gave him the 40 silver ahead of time and just went to the Roman's himself.
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04-10-2006, 10:22 AM
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| If anything it would be Dumbledore from Snape's perspective.
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| Regardless, I'm only saying that it would be the Bible from another mans perspective. (or a book from the Bible, I suppose) | |
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04-10-2006, 12:27 PM
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| I agree with that. Same nonsense, different perspective. At least the fiction I read is entertaining.
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| You guys making it sound like Jesus never existed...
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Originally Posted by Snagg You guys making it sound like Jesus never existed... | Proof that he did?
FYI - I could write my own Bible about a fictional character, would that make him real?
(Personally I belive that he existed. However, without proof it is pointless to argue if he existed or if he did not, since you cannot win. I know I know, "THATS WHY YOU CALL IT FAITH", what a sweet excuse for everything religous, eh?) | |
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Originally Posted by Hitsua Regardless, I'm only saying that it would be the Bible from another mans perspective. (or a book from the Bible, I suppose) | Quote: |
Originally Posted by BFH I agree with that. Same nonsense, different perspective. At least the fiction I read is entertaining. | Are you two stupid?
The bible is based off of different people's perspectives. IE Mark, Luke, john, and the other one.
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| So you're saying that Matthew, Mark, Luke and John never collaborated? They paint the same picture; the same story. Apparently Judas' is completely different.
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Originally Posted by Knox Proof that he did?
FYI - I could write my own Bible about a fictional character, would that make him real?
(Personally I belive that he existed. However, without proof it is pointless to argue if he existed or if he did not, since you cannot win. I know I know, "THATS WHY YOU CALL IT FAITH", what a sweet excuse for everything religous, eh?) |
Not to argue, but he did exist. Proof? It's called secular accounts; history. Look up the Jewish Historian Josephus, who talked about Jesus and his life several times. His worst enemies didn't question his existance, and niether did the world until this past century.
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Originally Posted by Knox Proof that he did?
FYI - I could write my own Bible about a fictional character, would that make him real?
(Personally I belive that he existed. However, without proof it is pointless to argue if he existed or if he did not, since you cannot win. I know I know, "THATS WHY YOU CALL IT FAITH", what a sweet excuse for everything religous, eh?) |
Err... Roman general's accounts of Jesus, other high ranking Romans also wrote about Jesus. Josephus is a big Jesus writer. Plenty more. Forgot exact names but I'll google them later. Some even wrote about Jesus' "magic tricks".
It is historical fact that Jesus existed. The faith part comes is was he really the long awaited Messiah.
BTW there like a hundred gospels of Jesus. Don't remember exact people but I remember Mary Magdalene had one. They collected all the gospels they found and chose the 4 that would best spread the religion.
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Originally Posted by Static Are you two stupid?
The bible is based off of different people's perspectives. IE Mark, Luke, john, and the other one. | (or a book from the Bible, I suppose)
I guess that's what that would mean wouldn't it, nutgobbler. | |
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Originally Posted by Static The whole Judas as a traitor thing is bull**** and hopefully Tipsy with all his/her brainwashed knowledge can help me out on this one.
Why was Judas seen as a bad man. He only did what was expected of him, I think Jesus should of gave him the 40 silver ahead of time and just went to the Roman's himself. | I've been called a lot of things on this forum, but this is a first time I ever came across someone thinking I was a "her."
The thing is, is he a traitor, yes, a bad man, not so much as he is portrayed in the mainstream public. He betrayed Jesus, there really isn't any clearer way to say that. The big question you should be asking is why. A reason a lot of Jews didn't accept Jesus as the messiah is because they were basically expecting a military savior to reestablish Israel.
It can't be said with complete certainty, but Judas was probably similar to one of these type of people. If you're familiar with the crucifiction story, there is a part where someone in the crowd around Jesus shouts for him to save himself. Judas most likely thought that he was going to save himself.
That is my two cents on the subject, but from a purely biblical view, just look at how the story goes after that. Judas gives the silver back and then goes and hangs himself out of grief. That really isn't consistent with a person bent on betraying Jesus, but his actions do turn out to do that, even if not on purpose.
As for Judas just doing what was expected of him, it didn't necessarily have to be him. It could have been any number of people if Judas hadn't turned Jesus over.
As for the different viewpoints in the Bible. Keep in the mind the Bible is a compilation of forty some different books and a variety of human authors.
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