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11-27-2005, 08:50 PM
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| WHat if the axis won WW2 Would the world sitl lbe at war today? (newworld&aussi vs the rest)
What languages would be most common?
What countries will be gone?
Would hitler still be alive? Who is most likely to replace him (people who actually lived)
Which countries (if any) wil most lieley be still alive and be resisting the axis?
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11-27-2005, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Asylum Patient Would hitler still be alive? | He'd be 116 years old ...
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11-28-2005, 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Asylum Patient Would the world sitl lbe at war today? (newworld&aussi vs the rest)
What languages would be most common?
What countries will be gone?
Would hitler still be alive? Who is most likely to replace him (people who actually lived)
Which countries (if any) wil most lieley be still alive and be resisting the axis? | If the Axis won WW2, then the world would probably be split between mostly between Germany, Italy, and Japan. In Europe, there may be a few countries allied with the Axis who would still be around, but most of them would probably be annexed (think Czechoslovakia and Austria).
Resistance, of course, would be common, the greater space occupied, the greater amount of people they would have to control. It'd probably be in the Axis's best interest to leave some countries be, so they wouldn't have to contend with resistance movements in every direction. Most likely, the Americas would be crippled, but allowed to remain under constant surveillance or remain with a puppet government installed. I doubt any remaining country would be openly resisting the Axis, though. They'd be crushed with ease.
Using this line of thought, we'd still be speaking English, but in the case of overseas people, I doubt there'd be a massive campaign to force people to speak German, Italian, Japanese, or whatever. Most likely, regional officials, governors, etc. would be required to be somewhat fluent in whatever language, in order to communicate with the occupying force. The average guy would probably be required to learn the occupying country's language, but would still be able to use their native language. Really, there's no point in forcing everyone to speak German or whatever, just make sure they know some phrases, words, basic grammar, etc.
Hitler would be dead. Just about every major Nazi leader has died already, so it'd be someone we've never heard of replacing him.
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11-28-2005, 12:53 AM
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| This is hard to do especialy at what point did they win the war? Before or after italy was invaded? because if it was before Italy likelt would have had some territoy, if it was after, and Italy had already surrendered, Germany would have invaded Italy as if they were the enemy.
It is likely germany wouldn't have much today, North America probably wouldn't have been conquered, and Latin America is of no interest to any of the axis powers. Japan would probably occupy indonesia, china etc. But even then, Asian history dictates that there is very little chance they would have kept it for over 50 years.
Likely, if things had gone in favor for Hitler, Britain would have surrendered in the Battle of Britain, He would have ahd a successful invasion of Russia, and Europe was his. All things considered, it is likely he wouldn't have gone for world domination, it would have just collapsed anyways. No it is likely in exhancge for Britain sovereinty, Germany probably would be recognized as owners of the Rhineland and maybe further west into france teritory, Austria (something hitler always wanted), Poland, probably russia etc.
Also, the rich oil fields in the middle east might be somehting worth taking, something that Germany would probably have gotten anyways if they wanted to win the war.
Hitler would be dead by the way.
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11-30-2005, 07:10 PM
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| well i think the reich would have collapsed after the war had ended, because for hitler the ideal human was an aryan, however neither the italians nor the japanese applied to this ideal. So i think hitler would have started a war against his former allies...
Also the resistance and the other non-fascist countries would have been a too big pressure for germany.
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11-30-2005, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Falkenmond well i think the reich would have collapsed after the war had ended, because for hitler the ideal human was an aryan, however neither the italians nor the japanese applied to this ideal. | Actualy in Europe Mussolini adopted anti-semetic, Pro-Aryan laws against the jews in Italy, as did Spain.
Plus, Japan has a political idea in facism that supported hitler. |
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12-02-2005, 09:23 PM
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| Hitler would be old |
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12-03-2005, 12:09 AM
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| umm i think hitler would be dead. i mean he wouuld be over... well he would probably have been executed and then somebody would take over
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12-03-2005, 01:01 AM
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| God what has AS become? This is not intelligent discussion, most of you guys don't know anything about World War 2. Germany could never have won, them winning would be illogical thus making the discussion on what would happen if they won illogical. |
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12-03-2005, 01:50 AM
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| The discussion isn't on the plausibility of an Axis victory. We could just say, no matter how illogical it might be, that the German steamrolled across the USSR. Inane? Yes. But, it's just an alternate scenario topic.
By victory, the topic could even encompass something like the Non-Aggression Pact between Germany and the USSR staying intact, or the Japanese developed their biological weapons before the Americans delivered the deathblow. Maybe the war in the Pacific turned sour for America and the Japanese were able to develop WMD's and exchange their information with the other Axis nations. Sure the scenarios are unlikely, but they could be used to set the alternate future of an Axis victory.
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12-03-2005, 07:29 AM
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| axis SHOULD HAVE WON. we tlkin bout hitler? he was brilliant. photographic memory. intel could come to him, give him info on whats goin on, w/o looking at a map, hitler could see it in his mind and give a perfect strategic plan. only reason we prolly won is cuz hitler hadta spend time with his family and wife, rather then dominate the war, which he could have done |
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12-03-2005, 07:50 PM
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| Ah, actually every time Hitler tried to mess with the way his Generals run the army things went bad for the Germans, the 6th Army at Stalingrad for example, it could have retreated and fought another day but Hitler told it to stay as a result it was annihilated. Also a notion that a person with a photographic memory (i am not sure if Hitler even had that) is a good military leader is ridiculus. |
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12-03-2005, 10:09 PM
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| Ah...actually i know a lot more then you. He was not brilliant, he was not a genious, he was charismatic, and he was charismatic at a time then Germany needed a hero to pull them out of depression, thats his only attribute. But hey please tell me about how Hitler was a military genious, exactly how did he show it? By dividing the German attack force during Barbarossa against advice of his Generals and as a result suffering a crushing defeat at the battle of Moscow? How about letting the allies go at Dunkirk? You really don't know anything do you? You're just another blind "look at me i am a Nazi" attention whore. |
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12-04-2005, 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by speaker axis SHOULD HAVE WON. |
are you a racist?? he could never win, even if he did manage to conquer the world there would be so many armed rebellion that he would never have talken control. he was commiting active genocide, all that information would leak to the germany people. he was just a good speaker case closed
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12-29-2005, 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Asylum Patient Would the world sitl lbe at war today? (newworld&aussi vs the rest)
What languages would be most common?
What countries will be gone?
Would hitler still be alive? Who is most likely to replace him (people who actually lived)
Which countries (if any) wil most lieley be still alive and be resisting the axis? | you wouldn't be here and neither would i. hitler wasn't just aiming at the jews. he was planning to eliminate all non-aryans which is basially anyone who wasn't blonde hair and blue eyed.
and if the axis won WW2 there would be no countries resisting, hence the term won.
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12-29-2005, 06:37 PM
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| Actually, he was going to make USSR a free state or more correctly put a slave state under Germany, atleast thats what he told the Russian Liberation Army.
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12-29-2005, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by micro.micro you wouldn't be here and neither would i. hitler wasn't just aiming at the jews. he was planning to eliminate all non-aryans which is basially anyone who wasn't blonde hair and blue eyed. |
That is a myth. Most Nazi's and Hitler himself did not have blonde haired or blue eyes. That story comes from the Nordic ideology that northern Europeans had evolved superiority to southern Europeans who had mixed with the Moors. The Peak of of racial superiority was blonde hair and blue eyed Nordic descendants in Germany, however all whites in northern Europe were considered on the same level as superior to Southern Europeans, Jews, and Africans etc. Quote: |
and if the axis won WW2 there would be no countries resisting, hence the term won.
| There is more to won than "no countries at war." Look at the United States. They technicaly won agaisnt Saddam, but now they are faced with the same problems Germany would have if they won. Thier presence has to remain, or let the the entire country collapse, and spout rebellion. Germany never had the man power to take, occupy and control every country, and over time there would be uprising,s which is why if anyone read my first paragraph, that is likely the strategy hitler would have taken once he won. |
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