Druggies vs Straight edge.

[Static]

I think people that experiment with drugs have a grander compacity for the world they live in then people who live day in and day out straight edge. Something they can't grasp is how you can feel like you are in your own small reality and having all these different things happening to you that no one else can see, hear, feel, smell, or taste.

Certain drugs can unlock a small world and open your eyes to a reality that isn't pretty or even logical.

Straight edge people take things how they are. Not knowing about the hard edges of life or the rough terrains that have been put out. It is a difficult thing to explain because one cannot exactly explain a high that has made 3 minutes seem like 30 minutes. The thought process alone is enough to drive a man insane.

So bassically my arguement is that people who have experiemented with pyschodelic drugs have a better understanding of reality than those who live life sober and straight edge.

[Jimbo]

You dont have to take drugs to see things in your own way.My opinion on life and all that stuff is probably way differin't then most's and i've never taken drugs.

[Snagg]

If you were a psyschodelic drugs user, would you encourage your kids to use it?

[Static]

Well one, I won't be having kids but If I had a boy, Yes. When they were of age I would.

My dad and I have done some trippin drugs before together. They make going to the movies feel like the enviornment is around you.

[Glowpole]

Smoking + tv = So much more understanding. Most people are just brianwashed into hating pot and what not.

[Venice_native]

Because the only way to find out about hardships in life is drugs, right? And how is it any different with somone being brainwashed not to do drugs as it is with somone being brainwashed to do drugs?

[aphextwin]

isnt drugs used to get out of reality instead of getting to know it better?

neways im straight edge now....

[Static]

Its not just about seeing the surrounds different as you normally would. You seem to feel the essence of life while heavily under certain drugs. Euphoria, philosophical thoughts, religious thoughts. What have you.

After you have been in the maelstorm which is a heavily induced drug trip you come out thinking about it what it was you thought about, as jubbled the thoughts were, and the things that you felt in that period of time.

It is still very difficult to explain so I won't really persist like a fanatic on the topic but keep it to a quiet debate.

[Forged]

Originally Posted by Snagg

If you were a psyschodelic drugs user, would you encourage your kids to use it?

No, I wouldn't. I would not encourage my child to do any drugs, as an ex-druggy I see all the harm drugs have done to the people around me. I also have also experinced psychodelic drugs, and they take you out of your element and cause you to do things you would not normally do, plus magic mushrooms in paticular tend to give you an extremlly negative view point on society, expecially while on the drug.

[Zmoney]

Waste your money to get high for a half an hour,

Or.....

Go to the park jump in the pickup game of basketball and get a rush of endorphins, making you naturaly high for free while having fun.


I'll play some basketball.

[Static]

You can also rob a store but that is beside the point. The rush of natural endorphines is meant for survivial so it would give you a nice rush. But Adrenaline isn't up everyone's alley.

to forged... The view of Society changes with where you live in my eyes. I live in a shithole where people get jumpped now and then. Its heaven compared to some of the bad places in america but it still blows. My view on the society we have here has and always will be low. But then again I am racist. Drugs have actually made me accept things like voilence and things of that nature. Made me stay in after dark.

[Snagg]

You're willing to destroy your child's brain?

Bad parent.

[N[U]TS]

Originally Posted by Static

Something they can't grasp is how you can feel like you are in your own small reality and having all these different things happening to you that no one else can see, hear, feel, smell, or taste.

I feel that way when i day dream...im in my "own small reality"

Certain drugs can unlock a small world and open your eyes to a reality that isn't pretty or even logical.

each experience i go through does that for me...
my most thankful experience made me realize money is not everything. thus making me more humble and thankfull for what i have today.

So bassically my arguement is that people who have experiemented with pyschodelic drugs have a better understanding of reality than those who live life sober and straight edge.

I disagree, lifes experiences big or small give you a better understanding. Might i sugguest the book The Giver by lois lowry...a good book

[OneEliteMof0]

First off im not 100% what a "grander compacity in the world we live in" is by anymeans. Secondly I don't see how you can compare drugs unlocking small worlds for your eyes only, with reality. They are complete opposite with the only element bieng the same is you.

I completly agree that you will be experienceing things "straight edge people" will never be aware of, but that certianlly is not reality, but rather your paradox reality which you created.

Physchodelic drugs lead to a deeper and deeper thinking. But my question is what exactly is the outcome of the deep thinking. Where does it lead you to? What's the aftereffect, and what was further understood? Did you truely discover anything real?

Think of one and try to see what truth it holds. Or is it really just a daydream taken out of context?

The phenomenon of reality is your own individual life, and how you live it. So think about who's reality you are actually better understanding.


It seems to me only your own.

[Static]

Originally Posted by OneEliteMofo

I completly agree that you will be experienceing things "straight edge people" will never be aware of, but that certianlly is not reality, but rather your paradox reality which you created.

Physchodelic drugs lead to a deeper and deeper thinking. But my question is what exactly is the outcome of the deep thinking. Where does it lead you to? What's the aftereffect, and what was further understood? Did you truely discover anything real?

Now I should clarify some things for you.

It is not the actually trip that makes the reality come to life. It is after it is done and you have been through hell and back when you see the world for what it is. Before tripping I used to be an very depressed and dark person. Seeing only the bad and gresome in the world.

After I was tripping I had realized there is nothing for me to fret. When I was exposed to my own small world I realized that it wasn't all about looking for bad shit to find and pick at. I had nothing to complain about. I was tripping balls, there was pot, there was cigs, and there was shit to do and eat and sleep.

As for the deep thinking tripping got me into being a complete aesthest. It opened my eyes and mind to the greater parts of the world and living.[/color]

[bloodshed]

Psychadelic drugs can kill you insantly. Not too good eh? It's like, taking a daydream, unleashing an explosion of imagination on it, combined with past images and sounds, then making it wave up and down and spin around, and making it last 30 minutes. Hell I can do that by myself. I don't even need endorphines to be naturally high, usually I stay up kinda late, I will start talking shit and seeing things. I don't need some crappy brain killer that will cost me loads of money and could easily kill me.

90's rock owns.

[Tempest Storm]

"I don't condone drug use, but I must admit, they have worked well for me." ~ Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

[Static]

For that quote alone I must say you have earned my eternal gratitude.

[TrongaMonga]

Drugs are just one more experience. If it makes people more aware? Perhaps. Depends on how the straigth used his time.

While the druggie is high and thinking something unrelated to the real world, the straight would actually be doing something in the field. They could actually reach the same conclusion with different manners. That's not unnusual, really.

However, druggies are far more influented (let's assume that both have same intellegence and all that crap) than straights.

[Glowpole]

Honestly everything in this world is here for a purpose. While I havn't done anything trip-related in awhile. Its nice to go to a shroom party and have the most fun i can have in my life in one night.

Everyone should be able to experince everything once. The problem lies with how often you do it. Everything in this world can be bad for you if done to much from eating fastfood....doing starsofts mom everynight ect..

Mostly I stick to downers for the fact I like to relax after a long day sitting on my ass doing nothing. (takes more out of you than you think). Its the same as having a beer. But beer ok. Because the goverment labeled it legal.

Everyone hows their view on drugs. I just wish people would open there eyes and look outside the box than just joining the brianwashing the goverment has done about it. Sit down and read a history book about it one day.


Like I said everything is here for a purpose. It how you use that purpose.
I don't tihnk that made any sense :fwink