Emotion, a weakness

[Laharl]

Emotion itself is by far the largest weakness of humanity. Every emotion affects how you act, and the decisions (Good and bad) you will make. Here are some examples:

Anger causes you to not think things through clearly, and make mistakes.

"Love" (I question it's existance) blinds you to negative traits of your "partner" and puts them into an ideal position to betray you.

"Trust" - see above.

Depression drains you of your will to improve your situation and pushes you down a slippery slope.

Discuss.

[TheJanitor]

Fear - Not jumping infront of busses because you are afraid.

Love - Loving your children and protecting them. Even at the expense of ones life as they have more potential thus more valuable.

Trust - If humans didn't trust eachother and pack together then we'd probably not be alive.

Depression drains you of your will to improve your situation and pushes you down a slippery slope.

Can't disagree with that.

Anger - can give us the strength to defend ourselves and survive.

Ehh most emotions are there for a reason and have a purpose. They're not weakness's.

[Laharl]

Not jumping in front of a bus would be common sense. Not fear.

Trust, you can't completely trust somebody. They are bound to betray you.

You defend yourself better when calm, reserved. Not when angry.

[N[U]TS]

Originally Posted by Big-Fat-Homo

Depression drains you of your will to improve your situation and pushes you down a slippery slope.

Discuss.

a true statement indeed.... as of right now i am going through a depression. After graduationg high school i decided like every other normal graduate that i would attend college. Having a 4.0 in high school gave me high hopes for doing well in college but little did i know how much i would have to adjust in order to make good study habbits and above all else good grades. After my first chem exam, i realized that i was not grasping the concept of chemistry. Not being able to understand the current information made me spend more time on it and in doing so left less time for me to focus on other subjects. I have confronted my paretns about the matter and i knew what the answer was going to be "you can not drop the class or else you will lose the grants you have recieved" The grand requires you to have 13hrs which is what i am currently obtaining. as big-fat-homo said depression drains your will to improve and pushes you down a slippery slope. This is what im experincing and i really dont know what to do. I get the feeling that i need to do somthing different....maybe the millitairy which i have thought of doing even before i graduated. It just feels like the right thing to do.


I am actually glad you made this thread homo since i was debating on posting my current situation or not.

[Angelicpower]

Depression can be a killer..Get help if you must! I know from personal experience..I got down to 78lbs back in June due to depression drowning out my appetite..the doc has me on meds now and I have put weight back on and actually I weigh now more than I ever have while being not pregnant. I am up to 115 now. WOOHOOO!! Open your shades and let the light in!

[TheJanitor]

Not jumping in front of a bus would be common sense. Not fear.

Fear keeps us from doing stupid things, if we wern't afraid of dying who's to say we won't jump in front of a bus?

Trust, you can't completely trust somebody. They are bound to betray you.

Don't emotions like love and guilt stop you from betraying people.

You defend yourself better when calm, reserved. Not when angry.

One word, adrenaline.

[Bret]

Emotion is not an enemy, nor is it a weakness. Its a tool, a tool that gets people fired up for whatever it may be.

[Zerglite]

Def. a weakness, any emotion can be used against you

[Sly]

Almost anything can be used against you.

[Zerglite]

Originally Posted by iSuck

Almost anything can be used against you.

actually.. everything that i can think of can be

[Tupac Amaru Shakur]

I agree with janitor in every sense. If you question love (thread poster) how is it that people have been married for most of their life? Were they forced to? Is something holding them together? Ill tell you what is holding them together, Love is. Im sure you havent experienced it because of the nature of your post, but one day it will come wihtout you having to try. It did for me and i cherish that day everyday when it happened to me.

[x42bn6]

Emotion makes life life. It would be boring and pointless without emotion.*

[-Azrael666-]

Originally Posted by Big-Fat-Homo

Trust, you can't completely trust somebody. They are bound to betray you.

You can fully trust someone. Even if you've been betrayed before, and even if it still hurts, it doesn't make it impossible to trust someone else. It just makes it harder. Someday you'll meet someone that you'll come to trust with your very life, and know that they could never betray you.

Originally Posted by x42bn6

Emotion makes life life. It would be boring and pointless without emotion.*

Quoted for truth. Emotion isn't an obstacle in life; it's the point of it. I couldn't imagine being alive, or wanting to be alive, in a world lacking of emotion.

[amrtin77]

instead of asking "is emotion a weakness?"

ask yourself "what is there to be strong for without emotion?"


trust me, love does nothing but make you tougher. you dont care about anything that happens to you as long as you have that person. and no, its not a primitive feeling of sex. it is an emotion just as much as anger is an emotion. it is very possible to care about someone more than you care about yourself, and im not trying to bullshit you with pretty words.

BFH, i agree with you with one thing - love puts the person you love in an ideal position to betray you. you just have to accept it as the biggest risk that comes with loving someone.

You can fully trust someone. Even if you've been betrayed before, and even if it still hurts, it doesn't make it impossible to trust someone else. It just makes it harder. Someday you'll meet someone that you'll come to trust with your very life, and know that they could never betray you.

yep. even if they hurt you it doesnt mean they betrayed you though. sometimes a person has to move on and do what they want to do. it doesnt have to be a betrayal of trust. trust is very important.

[Angelicpower]

Emotions Anonymous is a twelve-step organization, similar to Alcoholics Anonymous. Our fellowship is composed of people who come together in weekly meetings for the purpose of working toward recovery from emotional difficulties. EA members are from many walks of life and are of diverse ages, economic status, social and educational backgrounds. The only requirement for membership is a desire to become well emotionally.


Our program has been known to work miracles in the lives of many who suffer from problems as diverse as depression, anger, broken or strained relationships, grief, anxiety, low self-esteem, panic, abnormal fears, resentment, jealousy, guilt, despair, fatigue, tension, boredom, loneliness, withdrawal, obsessive and negative thinking, worry, compulsive behavior and a variety of other emotional issues.

As an anonymous program, EA respects the confidentiality of its members at all times. As a spiritual program, there is an emphasis on a higher power. Experience has shown the EA program works equally well for those with or without religious beliefs or affiliations.

EA provides a warm and accepting group setting in which to share experiences without fear of criticism. Through weekly support meetings, members discover they are not alone in their struggles. We may each have different symptoms, but the underlying emotions are the same or similar.

Our program was founded in St. Paul, Minnesota in 1971. As of 1996 there are over 1,200 EA chapters in 39 countries, including the United States. Emotions Anonymous is supported and maintained by member contributions and each member and group is encouraged to share in the financial support of Emotions Anonymous.

About Our Meetings: EA is not a medical or psychiatric service, nor does it provide personal or family counseling. Leadership of group meetings rotates and is non-professional. The leader's function is simply to conduct the meeting, not to serve as an authority. Our meetings are structured to assist individuals who want to achieve and maintain emotional health by understanding and utilizing the Twelve Steps of Emotions Anonymous in their daily lives.

Tools of our program include: the Twelve Steps, Traditions, Concepts, and Promises. Also available is our EA book which features writings on the Steps and personal recovery stories, our daily meditation book Today, and program-approved literature. http://www.emotionsanonymous.org/

[Laharl]

There is no place for love, compassion or trust in drow-vocabulary, what friendships do exist are based on mutual benefit and common cause, never on trust.

That's what to live for. Mutual benefit, common sense. Not trust. Not love. Every time I've really cared for somebody ( A soft streak) I've been betrayed. Not anymore.

[Pie]

Originally Posted by Angelicpower

Emotions Anonymous is a twelve-step organization, similar to Alcoholics Anonymous. Our fellowship is composed of people who come together in weekly meetings for the purpose of working toward recovery from emotional difficulties. EA members are from many walks of life and are of diverse ages, economic status, social and educational backgrounds. The only requirement for membership is a desire to become well emotionally.


Our program has been known to work miracles in the lives of many who suffer from problems as diverse as depression, anger, broken or strained relationships, grief, anxiety, low self-esteem, panic, abnormal fears, resentment, jealousy, guilt, despair, fatigue, tension, boredom, loneliness, withdrawal, obsessive and negative thinking, worry, compulsive behavior and a variety of other emotional issues.

As an anonymous program, EA respects the confidentiality of its members at all times. As a spiritual program, there is an emphasis on a higher power. Experience has shown the EA program works equally well for those with or without religious beliefs or affiliations.

EA provides a warm and accepting group setting in which to share experiences without fear of criticism. Through weekly support meetings, members discover they are not alone in their struggles. We may each have different symptoms, but the underlying emotions are the same or similar.

Our program was founded in St. Paul, Minnesota in 1971. As of 1996 there are over 1,200 EA chapters in 39 countries, including the United States. Emotions Anonymous is supported and maintained by member contributions and each member and group is encouraged to share in the financial support of Emotions Anonymous.

About Our Meetings: EA is not a medical or psychiatric service, nor does it provide personal or family counseling. Leadership of group meetings rotates and is non-professional. The leader's function is simply to conduct the meeting, not to serve as an authority. Our meetings are structured to assist individuals who want to achieve and maintain emotional health by understanding and utilizing the Twelve Steps of Emotions Anonymous in their daily lives.

Tools of our program include: the Twelve Steps, Traditions, Concepts, and Promises. Also available is our EA book which features writings on the Steps and personal recovery stories, our daily meditation book Today, and program-approved literature. http://www.emotionsanonymous.org/

thats a horrible program. its taking advantage of people who have had trouble in the past and attempting to convert them to the chirstian religion. honestly, i dont think "god" stopped anyone from drinking or fixed anyone's emotional problems.

[Tupac Amaru Shakur]

Originally Posted by amrtin77

instead of asking "is emotion a weakness?"

ask yourself "what is there to be strong for without emotion?"


trust me, love does nothing but make you tougher. you dont care about anything that happens to you as long as you have that person. and no, its not a primitive feeling of sex. it is an emotion just as much as anger is an emotion. it is very possible to care about someone more than you care about yourself, and im not trying to bullshit you with pretty words.

BFH, i agree with you with one thing - love puts the person you love in an ideal position to betray you. you just have to accept it as the biggest risk that comes with loving someone.

i totally agree with you,"and no, its not a primitive feeling of sex."it is that way for most guys im afraid, i was weak before, ive learned alot from love on my own and with some help. its realy made me stronger and my gf more then anyone else makes me feel like im worht something when i think everyone could careless about me.

[N[U]TS]

Originally Posted by Pie

thats a horrible program. its taking advantage of people who have had trouble in the past and attempting to convert them to the chirstian religion. honestly, i dont think "god" stopped anyone from drinking or fixed anyone's emotional problems.

Is it a crime to "attempt" to convert some one!? jeez its not like they are trying to brain wash the person seeking help. It is by your own personal choice to accept God as your lord and savior. To your "I dont think" well evedently you know very little.... God gave us free will bro either we sin every day and choose to do nothing about it or we repent and learn the word of god.

[Angelicpower]

Well said nut.

That was only one place to find help for emotional troubles. There are many other places to seek help but most other places will go off of some man~made solution. Emotions are there to help us one way or another. Without emotion you would have no desire to do anything, not even post in these forums. You wouldn't get excited to go to a party or get money if you had no emotions. Let me find another site to help since the Lord scares you to death.

DECISION-MAKING AND PROBLEM-SOLVING
Life can be viewed as a constant series of decisions. Only by making rational decisions do we "take charge" of our lives. Some decisions seem unimportant but are important. For example, every minute or two we answer, by our behavior, the question: What is the best use of my time right now? (See next method.) Any one decision about the next couple of minutes of our lives may be trivial but taken altogether the cumulative effect of conscientiously making those millions of decisions determines the outcome of our lives. Likewise, some admittedly important decisions, such as mate selection, career choice, when and if to have children, and values, are often impulsively or casually made. And, some unimportant decisions (because there aren't significant differences among the choices), such as what car or appliance to buy, are carefully made, based on precise technical data. Some decisions are made alone and others are made under tremendous social pressure, such as when to have sex, what religion to accept, and what to do socially with peers. Nevertheless, all good decision-making or problem solving methods follow the same process:
Understand the problem and goals clearly, so you can consider a wide variety of alternative courses of action.
The creation of many possible solutions to the problem. You can't use an inventive solution unless it has been thought of.
Collect all the conveniently available information about the probable outcome of each course of action. See if there aren't synergistic ways of combining several promising solutions into potent solutions.
Weigh the pros and cons of each course of action (solution), then decide on one that you can commit yourself to fully.
Some writers emphasize the cognitive processes of generating creative solutions, gathering expert opinions, assessing the probable outcomes of each alternative, etc. Other writers emphasize (a) the barriers to good decision-making, such as impatience with gathering data, (b) the consequences of feeling inadequate, dependent, or scared, (c) the restrictions imposed by wanting to be admired or loved, and so on. Both the right steps and the emotional pitfalls are important. I'll summarize both.

Several types of decisions are discussed, but choosing a career serves as my example of a complex, important decision. Several useful books about career choice are cited at the end of this section, especially note the most recent Bolles (1995+) and Sinetar(1987). If you have a history of mental/emotional problems, Lavine (1996) addresses the special problems you will face.

Purposes
To make decisions more rationally and wisely.
To recognize that we really do have a choice about many important things in our lives.
To avoid making decisions sloppily or by default.
To avoid a variety of irrational ideas, false assumptions, fears, needs, and other emotions that block good decision-making.
Steps

STEP ONE: Decide if there is a problem. If so, describe and understand the problem, see some solutions, and accept the challenge to tackle the problem.
A problem well stated is half solved, according to an old adage. Perhaps the first question is: Is there a problem? No need to worry about something that never happens. Perhaps you should also ask: Am I exaggerating or minimizing the problem? If in doubt, better ask someone else. But if there are likely to be serious difficulties, then ask yourself: Are there solutions to this problem? Do I have time to do something about the problem? In short, is it a manageable, solvable problem? And, am I overly optimistic or pessimistic? The situation may be an opportunity rather than a problem. Am I willing to accept the challenge with enthusiasm?

In chapter two, the second and third steps in self-help are designed to clarify the problem: observe how serious it is and try to understand the problem by analyzing it into five parts--behavior, emotions, skills, cognitive, and unconscious factors. Understanding the problem helps us find a solution.

http://mentalhelp.net/psyhelp/chap13/chap13o.htm