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08-06-2005, 08:57 AM
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| Natural Cures They Don't Want You to Know About Has anyone read this book? It's by Kevin Trudeau. It's amazing book and sheds much light on how the FDA and FTC operates.
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08-06-2005, 09:53 AM
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| no, tell us about it
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08-06-2005, 06:53 PM
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| Well, it's a fairly lengthy book but I'll give you an exerpt that seems pretty interesting:
The FDA atempted to make vitamin supplements prescription drugs. THe FDA Claimed that vitamins are so dangerous they should be prescribed only by doctors. The public was outraged and Congress rejected the idea. In 1993 the FDA tried to classify certain minerals and amino acids are prescription drugs, again, a public outcry caused Congress to act. Recently the FFDA has been going after companies that sell natural remendies via the Internet. It claims these companies are selling drugs without a license.
Also says how many large drug companies invest millions of dollars in the FDA, so FDA will patent their drugs. also FDA owns much of the stock in large drug companies. how a patented drug makes that company the only company that is able to sell the drug, which means they can set it to outrageous prices. That is why there are no natural cures in the market. Natural Cures can't be patented, therefore there's competition, which makes profit much less. The pharmaceutical companies know all the side effects of drugs, taht's their little secret. (Kinda like Tobacco companies back in the days)
It's all about money, it isn't natural to have to eat pills everyday. There are natural cures out there such as China or Germany that can cure diseases naturally, but since the drug companies would be out of business if everyone was cured, they prescribe drugs that make you purchase more drugs.
Here's how the cycle works, drug industry gives billions of dollars to medical schools, so their drrugs can be put in the textbooks and doctors are taught to prescribe certain pharmaceutical drugs, thus guaranteeing sales of those drugs by the company. Remember, doctors are taught 2 things, how to prescribe drugs and how to cut parts of a peroson's anatomy.
When docs get out of med school, most people don't know that the pharmaaceutical industry pays the doctor to prescribe certain drugs. Drug companies also give doctors all expense paid trips to "medical conferences". These medical conferences are really sales presentations by the drug companies, teaching the doc about drugs and how to prescribe them.
Man typed this much, better get a good argument going.
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08-08-2005, 06:34 PM
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| although the book is very accurate in its description of how the healthcare industry works, some of the cures that it tells you about....
are quite frankly.....bullshit.
if there was a cure for cancer or diabetes, itd be a little more well known, dont ya think?
other than that though, it is a very itneresting read.
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08-08-2005, 06:50 PM
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| There's no incentive for big companies to research for cures for cancer and diabeties, they want you guys to pay big bucks to do chemotherapy and take drugs.
There is a cure for diabetes, but the pharmaceutical industry gave him $30 million to not market it.
You know why you don't know about any natural remedies and cures? Because the FTC and FDA are suppressing the information. Do you think a TV station would allow a commercial that shows an all natural diabetes cure, from a few simple herbs that costs pennies? No, because TV these days are filled with commercials promoting drugs. The natural cure AD would antagonize other drugs. Drug companies are one of TV station's best customers. A drug company would not allow a TV station to show an ad like that.
One of the examples is Disney will not distribute a film critical of President BUsh because it cuold jeopardize the tax breaks it gets on its Florida theme parks. Remember, Bush's brother is governor of Florida. It was reported that an industry insider was quoted as saying, "Should this be happening in a free and open society, where the moneyed interests essentially call the shots regarding the information that the public is allowed to see and hear aobut?"
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08-08-2005, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by munchyman although the book is very accurate in its description of how the healthcare industry works, some of the cures that it tells you about...
are quite frankly.....bullshit.
if there was a cure for cancer or diabetes, itd be a little more well known, dont ya think?
other than that though, it is a very itneresting read. | The power of supression is very powerful. No one believes anything the American government says, until you come to the subject of E.T's and Roswell. Then all of a sudden people side with the government.
I digress, the book is a great read. :cool: I don't know if there is a cure for cancer or not. Even if it was possible do you think that the government would allow it? Unless they get taxes off it somehow then probably not.
Just like this one report I've heard about. Hemp became illegal because the tree industry would be ripped apart if hemp was used to make paper products. Hemp is much cheaper and would work just as well.
The "They" can pretty much do what they want. My friend and I at work got into a discussion about whether the tomato was fruit or not. Techniquely it is a fruit. But my friend found a very interest piece of document stating that sometime in the 60's or 70's the government changed the status of the tomato to a veggie for international sales.
"They" have power.
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08-08-2005, 06:57 PM
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| All cancer facilities and research and the usage of drugs and chemotherapy would drop to nothing if there was a cure for cancer. Thousands of jobs would be lost.
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08-08-2005, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Snagg All cancer facilities and research and the usage of drugs and chemotherapy would drop to nothing if there was a cure for cancer. Thousands of jobs would be lost. | Why be is concerned about people losing jobs? People lose jobs everyday, people leave their jobs everyday. Just because one door would close doesn't mean more wouldn't open.
If those research centers for current cancer treatments went down new ones would just be popping up left and right. There will always be competition, and it will stay that way as long as the government stays out of public interests.
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08-08-2005, 08:27 PM
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| Would drug companies want competition? No, they want to patent a drug so that only they can sell it at ridiculous prices. Not to mention use debunking campaigns to scare people from using anything except their product.
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08-08-2005, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Snagg Would drug companies want competition? No, they want to patent a drug so that only they can sell it at ridiculous prices. Not to mention use debunking campaigns to scare people from using anything except their product. | Quoted for truth.
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08-08-2005, 10:01 PM
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| Cure for Cancer is out Im afraid.
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08-08-2005, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by munchyman if there was a cure for cancer or diabetes, itd be a little more well known, dont ya think? | No, the cancer and diabetes federation are making dozens and dozens of billions of dollars by their medication and so on. I, sir, don't think so.
I've heard of this book a long, long time ago, and it's fairly old, maybe a year or so out in the market, and available for telephonic purchase, sometimes (normally when they're giving the 30 minute television promotion).
Either way, I've been meaning to get this book for personal reasons (not that I have cancer or diabetes, I'm just extremely interested in unpublicised medical research).
I'll see if I can find it online, since they don't regularly have english american books in Stockholm, or let alone europe. Perhaps I'll find something in the Stockholm airport, but that's very unlikely.
Also, I'd give this book a 9/10 because I judge books by their covers, thank you. :yum |
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08-09-2005, 12:20 AM
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| All those drug companies actually buy their medical research, they give huge incentives to scientists who can in any subtle way prove that their product is effective. This usually means very very biased research.
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08-09-2005, 07:11 AM
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| Its such a stupid concept.
The government holds back drugs that could save millions of lives just to make more money. Of course, there are downsides... Imagine the huge population increase...
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08-09-2005, 07:16 AM
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| Anti-biotics and all these new drugs are a horrible idea. All they have done is defeat evolution, which will one day result in some horrible catastrophic event. Once we've found a cure for every disease and can live for however long we want to, the world will become a desolate place to live in.
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08-09-2005, 08:10 AM
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| hmm, evolution is like survival of the fittest right? We are the fittest, because we are able to use our noggins and kill bacteria in our body. I don't see how that's defeating evolution, we are the fittest, we know how to make antibiotics, that's an adaptation. That's like saying a tiger shouldn't have teeth that sharp because that's defeating evolution, well since they were born with it, the tiger, logically, should use it in anyway that will help him survive the best. We are the same, we're born with these brains.
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08-09-2005, 08:22 AM
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| Yes but you have to understand, I don't think we were ever meant to keep making such genologic/scientific discoveries at such a rate. All the disease we had now would over time be ridded of disease by disease through evolution, making cures for them only uses up resources and money. |
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08-09-2005, 09:02 AM
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| Why havent you told os of these "cures" hmmm??? Are you siding with the ftc or fda?!!??!? Im jp, but on a serious note, think of this. Lets say there is finally a cure for Hiv And AIds, which btw i wouldnt be surprised if there was, the gov hides everything, for all we know they have spoken to aliens, but wont release the info cuz we humans will get scared riot blahblahblah. How would this cure affect the population, and would people want to have sex more because they know they wont die from hiv or aids anymore, oh wait including a cure for ghonerea eww warts as well. How would that kind of cure affect the world? Im not saying that we should keep this virus b/c its killing people that will over populate the earth but i mean for all that is good there has to be evil right? Why do we have man eating animals or poisonous insects/reptiles. its a vicious cycle if you really think about it. i forgot where i was going but i think i covered it and i can stop here any way.
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08-09-2005, 09:04 AM
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| Why does everyone assume the Government talks to aliens? Guranteed (And infact I was watching somthing today on it), that private scientists and groups spend more money looking for aliens than the Government does. |
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08-09-2005, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Venice_native Why does everyone assume the Government talks to aliens? Guranteed (And infact I was watching somthing today on it), that private scientists and groups spend more money looking for aliens than the Government does. | i dont believe that the government talks to aliens or knows about them i was using that as an example.
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