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08-17-2005, 08:45 AM
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| We live in an MSG society. Chlorine is added to our tap water, along with various other poisons. We purchase vegetables with insecticide coated over it. Most of our "cures" end up giving us horrible side effects. Sweeteners, food processing, MILK processing (2% Skim milk is PROCESSED MILK), and not to mention our simple lack of intelligence when it comes to choosing the right foods and getting the right exersize means that western countries are poisoning themselves slowly.
Krikkit is right. Ask anyone whos ever gone on a water/juice fast, or ate raw fruits/vegetables for a few months and ask them how they feel? The body has every cure it needs inside itself. It can cure itself of every disease we know of. The more you put into your body the less you get out of it. We get sick, whats our solution, to ingest drugs? Doesn't that sound the least bit silly? Drugs which shut down our digestive systems and effect our bodies natural steps it takes to cure itself.
Naturopathic medicine is a booming field because of the foolishness of traditional medicine.
Heres an example.
A person has a cold, they have a fever and are coughing with a sore throat.
Traditional approach: Go to the drugstore and buy a cough syrup with DM and DM-D which will suppress the coughing and coat the throat in a chemical which lessens blood flow the blood vessels, therefore suppressing the soreness. Also, pop a few extra strength tylenols to thin your blood and lessen the fever.
Natural approach: Drink plenty of water and fresh juices, eat fresh foods. Take herbal supplements or whole herbs (echinacea, rosehip, etc..) and take certain herbs to increase the fever and metabolism to furthur fight the disease. The immune system is boosted and enriched thanks to the herbs.
Which one makes more sense? The traditional approach does nothing but make the person FEEL good rather then cured. All it does is alleviate the symptoms of discomfort. This accomplishes nothing. The natural approach on the other hand enhances the feelings of discomfort but the tradeoff is a more effective method of battling the cold.
It makes no sense to douse the body in chemicals which rot it from inside out when the body is so advanced it can cure itself.
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08-17-2005, 03:21 PM
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| Wow this author really knows how to brainwash. This must be according to your life. Barely anyone I know takes drugs evertime they get sick. Quote: |
Medical Advances? Eh, more like Advanced Obituary Sign-ups.
| You completely miss my point then play with 2 words that I said. I was being sarcastic, the FDA can't control the world captain dipshit, Medical advances come from all over the world not just America. Quote: |
When people DIE from using them.
| That's my point, people don't generally die from using perscribed drugs, they are effective or they wouldn't sell. Quote: |
ou're not getting the point. They would only tell if they found some way to PROFIT from it, but they don't, becuase if they CURE cancer, there goes their cash flow. Are you even HUMAN? Do you know the MAIN DRIVE of HUMANS? GREED.
| No you're not getting the point. 1) There can be a lab full of scientists so you're saying that the FDA has little cameras and a couple minutes after they make the discovery some guy comes in pays them all incredible amounts to keep shut, not only is that assumption stupid but paying them so much would not really be profitable. 2) Hey, I don't see a 'non natural' cure of cancer going around so obviously there not making money off that are they? So in the sake of profit they pay joe bloggs 100 million to keep shut about a herbal cure that they don't even have a sythetic version of so all thay happens is the FDA loses 100m. 3) Someone who invents the cure for cancer would in the record books for a long time, the man would have fame, the guy can't have money problems he just can't. He'd be man of the year, he could live like a king for the rest of his life. 4) You forgot about the 'good' people in this world, who actually wanted to help people when they started working for cures. If a man's wife is dieing of cancer you think any sum of money would stop him? 5) I don't see that many scientists living in castle, do you? How would he/she explain the money? Quote: |
No, there is not ONE plant that cures all ailments. You know what we eat, breath, and drink? 100% altered chemicals, synthetic poisons. Now, you stop eating this processed crap that has absolutly no nutrition, and go on a whole fresh fruits and veggies diet, over a period of months, not a week, or a day, your body will expel all toxins in it, and heal itself of virtually any degenerative disease. If you'd get off your butt and research this stuff you'd prove yourself wrong.
| lol. You have no clue what my diet is. You know what insecticides are? Or know why we use these things, it's not a conspiracy it's ****ing obvious. If 100% of what we ate had no nutritional value we'd all die, wow you've proved me wrong there, you're version of 'research' is pulling facts out of your ass. Hey we can't eat fruit and Veg, remember? They're completely covered in insecticide like you guys say. You know why companies like birdseye advertise no unatural favorings? Because they already know, that's why we have 'organic ranges', be fat lables 'nutritional value' and products advertising 'no added sugar'. The public (everyone) knows what is unhealthy and healthy, wow you sure proved me wrong on a topic and I didn't even mention because it was so ****ing obvious. It's stupid to class everything a synthetic poision especially when you don't know what you're talking about. Quote: |
Not docters. And we've already discussed that. They can't get money from natures work.
| In my country healthcare is free, so they don't get money from what drugs they prescribe, they get money by doing a good job. I didn't know we discussed anything? Quote: |
"Oh, I know the secret to all this disease, I can't do shit about it, so I'll WRITE A ****ING BEST SELLING BOOK THAT EVERYONE WHO CARES IS READING."
| lol.... Everyone who cares? So to 'care' you have to read a book written by some idiot only wanting to make a profit himself. If it's such a fact that they've discovered diatbeteses and shit then there would of been something done about it. The guy just made the book so he can make a little money by fooling people into thinking they don't care unless they buy a book.
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08-17-2005, 05:54 PM
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| Doctors were educated to PRESCRIBE DRUGS AND TAKE OUT BODY PARTS.
They don't know any better. They are brainwashed by the drug companies because they go to those drug conventions.
Drug companies give huge money to medical departments of universities. Why? So they can put their textbooks into the universities. The doctors use them and they only know how to prescribe those drugs.
Hmmm are you sure all drugs are effective? According to the Los Angeles Times "The seven drugs were not needed to save lives. One was for heartburn, another was a diet pill, and a third was a pain killer. All tolled, six of the medicines were never pvoed to offer life-saving benefits, and the seventh, an antibiotic, was ultimately judged unnecessary because other safer antibiotics were available." These seven drugs have killed over ten thousand people. The FDA is allowign dangerous drugs to be approved.
Journal of the American Medical Association, Vol. 284 states "Things like unnecessary surgery, medical errors, negative effects on drugs, etc., cause almost as many deaths as heart disease and cancer. OVer 250 000 people in America alone die each year from physicians' activity or therapy. These account only for the deaths; they do not include people who are permanetly maimed, injured, or develop serious other medical conditions due to drugs and surgical procedures. The number of people who get permanent serious disabilities or discomfort, or develop other diseases from drugs and surgical procedures could exceed over three million people per year in America alone."
It is just in America. Other countries like China, and some european countries DO HAVE NATURAL CURES.
Wanted to add a note: 5 of the ingredients in most sunscreens are highly carcinogenic. DOn't put on sunscreen. It causes cancer.
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08-17-2005, 10:35 PM
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| could someone straigthten this out for me?
dont the drugs cure the ailment for the person? they dont take the disease/virus/cancer out of the human genome do they? genetic therapy takes care of that does it not?
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08-17-2005, 10:47 PM
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| Drugs suppress the symptoms of sickness.
Aspirin takes away a headache.
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08-18-2005, 02:47 AM
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Doctors were educated to PRESCRIBE DRUGS AND TAKE OUT BODY PARTS.
They don't know any better. They are brainwashed by the drug companies because they go to those drug conventions.
Drug companies give huge money to medical departments of universities. Why? So they can put their textbooks into the universities. The doctors use them and they only know how to prescribe those drugs.
| Them drugs have been proven scientifically to work, there a government watch dogs that track the FDA's 'movements'. Quote: |
Hmmm are you sure all drugs are effective? According to the Los Angeles Times "The seven drugs were not needed to save lives. One was for heartburn, another was a diet pill, and a third was a pain killer. All tolled, six of the medicines were never pvoed to offer life-saving benefits, and the seventh, an antibiotic, was ultimately judged unnecessary because other safer antibiotics were available." These seven drugs have killed over ten thousand people. The FDA is allowign dangerous drugs to be approved.
| Looks like a shitty doctor to me, no text books tells you to perscribe that shit. If the FDA have control then they give doctors the 'safer antibiotic', it's just the doctor gave the patient the wrong drugs, which of course is bound to lead to some bad ends. Quote: |
Journal of the American Medical Association, Vol. 284 states "Things like unnecessary surgery, medical errors, negative effects on drugs, etc., cause almost as many deaths as heart disease and cancer. OVer 250 000 people in America alone die each year from physicians' activity or therapy. These account only for the deaths; they do not include people who are permanetly maimed, injured, or develop serious other medical conditions due to drugs and surgical procedures. The number of people who get permanent serious disabilities or discomfort, or develop other diseases from drugs and surgical procedures could exceed over three million people per year in America alone."
| Unessary surgery doesn't earn the FDA nothing, neither does killing their consumer, retarded doctors in America are the fault. Only in America..... Still I don't think it's a conspiracy.
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08-18-2005, 04:33 AM
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| They just put in on the daily show, as I've heard. Got pretty bashed. |
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08-18-2005, 05:08 AM
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| It was also scientifically proven a while ago that eggs were bad for you. Now they have been sceintifically proven that eggs are good for you. Hmmm...
BTW, if you read my post earlier, scientists are paid to perform scientific labs that give a desired result. This means biased labs and many trials. You can't possibly trust all the "medical fact" these days.
hmm don't you think retarded doctors would give their patients drugs no matter what beacuse they get paid by the drug companies (even Canada) everytime they prescribe it?
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08-18-2005, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Kurosaki Ichigo An entire book about how an organization is hiding things from the public, but no proof in it such as..oh I don't know..some natural cures maybe? Yeah, if that doesn't scream 'yet another conspiracy theorist' I don't know what does. | I my self could not have said it better. Buuuuuut I do believe money = power. Money is something the government has lots of. Ah do not even get me started on my rant on the government.
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08-18-2005, 11:10 AM
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It was also scientifically proven a while ago that eggs were bad for you. Now they have been sceintifically proven that eggs are good for you. Hmmm...
| What does that have to do with anything. Quote: |
BTW, if you read my post earlier, scientists are paid to perform scientific labs that give a desired result. This means biased labs and many trials. You can't possibly trust all the "medical fact" these days.
| eh... Giving a 'reason' why scientists are paid doesn't help. Quote: |
hmm don't you think retarded doctors would give their patients drugs no matter what beacuse they get paid by the drug companies (even Canada) everytime they prescribe it?
| Canadian doctors get paid by taxes.
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08-23-2005, 10:25 PM
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| I saw some ad about it somewhere i forgot but he said that they where putting things in food that makes you addicted to food.
I actually agree with this,because its hard to go ONE day without eating,but im pretty sure our body can go atleast 2 weeks without eating,so i agree with that.
He also said that there were cures to help stop smoking/loose weight.That made me laugh because well.
You want to stop smoking,dont buy lighters.
You want to loose weight,dont eat.
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09-04-2005, 07:42 AM
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| I've heard about this, and he's right to some extent. If Kevin Trudeau didn't spew out so much bullshit between every true statement, his book may be worth reading. He talks about the medicinal companies like they are large greedy corporations, yet he fails to recognize smaller medical companies, or medical companies with a cause (ex, its funded by someone who has or died from a terminal illness) that WOULD put out a cure for diabetes or cancer if such a cure existed. Also, one may argue that taking a handfull of pills every day is not natural, but neither was living past 50 years of age before the days of modern medicine. Also, making people addicted to food using chemicals is also an ill-founded statement. You could go a LONG time without food, but your body would become malnourished and you would be in extreme discomfort. My dad, of all people, would know since he went through a phase in life where he would fast for about 14 days at a time, not eating any food at all (even at night or mornings) and only drink water. He said that it was very easy to live, but he suffered a huge loss of energy, he was far from comfortable, and he lost about 35lbs every time he fasted. Simply enough, it's human nature to eat 3-4 meals a day. Saying that there is chemicals in food that make you addicted is simply a marketing scheme by him to get overweight people to buy his book and to use it as a shoulder to cry on, since the people who buy the book for this reason are too weak to confess that their weight is there problem. God forbid that they are wrong for one in their life -- it must be someone else's fault... The evil corporations did it to me!
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