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| There are no cures in that book, because apparently FTA and FTC censored it and will prosecute Kevin Trudeau if he puts cures down, because he doesn't have a license or medical facts. Kevin Trudeau, the author, said you can find all the cures on my website when you sign up as a member. I think that's just a way for Trudeau to get more money.
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| Uhh A concert for cancer = stupid.. They just want to make money.. If they really want to stop cancer.. they would stop selling drugs.. Cigarettes,weed etc
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| Stopping cancer would mean banning microwaves and basically anything in food that contains chemicals. And also sun screen.
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Originally Posted by Tupac Shakur i dont believe that the government talks to aliens or knows about them i was using that as an example. | He said, "looking for aliens." This is sadly true. What interest does it help us to find aliens? Seriously, we need to fix our world before we fix others....
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| An entire book about how an organization is hiding things from the public, but no proof in it such as..oh I don't know..some natural cures maybe? Yeah, if that doesn't scream 'yet another conspiracy theorist' I don't know what does.
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| Well the whole book isn't about the conspiracy thing, maybe two or so chapters. Other chapters include like over 100 steps to never be sick again. And some other stuff.
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| I watched that guy on TV one late night. That was complete idiocy. I havnt read this whole thread, so someone might have said this: People are forgetting the fact that some people are just plain nice. People want to be nice to others. They want to help. So what the guy is saying wouldnt or couldnt happen.
Plus, dont you think that a freelancing company or profit free group would investigate things like this? Not just one man trying to sell a book.
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Originally Posted by Venice_native Anti-biotics and all these new drugs are a horrible idea. All they have done is defeat evolution, which will one day result in some horrible catastrophic event. Once we've found a cure for every disease and can live for however long we want to, the world will become a desolate place to live in.
No good came come from speeding up the cycle of evolution. | This is sort of straying off the topic of evolution now, but the race for evolution is lesser more physical evolution but rather mental/psychological evolution. We have evolved so much, with generations becoming more intelligent and having more potential then past generations. Evolution is still in full effect and kicking.
In terms of the drug companies and stuff. Want to avoid all this mess? Be a naturopath! =)
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Originally Posted by septoiD2 This is sort of straying off the topic of evolution now, but the race for evolution is lesser more physical evolution but rather mental/psychological evolution. We have evolved so much, with generations becoming more intelligent and having more potential then past generations. Evolution is still in full effect and kicking.
In terms of the drug companies and stuff. Want to avoid all this mess? Be a naturopath! =) | What I am saying, is every species is destined to go extinct at one point or another, and all we are doing is pushing closer to that point. |
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What I am saying, is every species is destined to go extinct at one point or another, and all we are doing is pushing closer to that point.
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Originally Posted by Thejanitor How?
No I won't lengthen my message  | Then I won't respond, make a point or don't post. |
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What I am saying, is every species is destined to go extinct at one point or another, and all we are doing is pushing closer to that point.
| Ok, next time you ask me to explain something or actually back something up I'll quote this again.
The last line was the avoid the 10 character rule =/.
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| Very good. Well now, think of it like this.
No medicine --> Some --> Alot --> Somewhat immortal --> War over drug companies --> Chaos --> World War --> Mass Extinction
Somthing like that...I don't have the thought to expand on it at the moment. |
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No medicine --> Some --> Alot --> Somewhat immortal --> War over drug companies --> Chaos --> World War --> Mass Extinction
| Eh...... is that a joke?
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| Yeah, I've got the book, my mom is currently reading through it. I believe with what he says. And proof? Do some research and you'll find your proof. I have no doubt in my mind that the FDA would withhold cures, when they are making millions on synthetic poisons. See, they can't patent herbs and natural cures, thus they can't get rich off of other peoples suffering, so instead they shoot down people who are actually trying to help people, and they pay off others to keep quiet. Don't you love America?
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Originally Posted by Thejanitor Eh...... is that a joke? | No, I'll expand.
When we first started off as humans we didn't have any medecine, so there wasn't a great demand for it. Now, there is a lot of medecine out there, and in a few more years we will have nearly everything cured and we'll be pretty set. After that, everything will be cured, and there will be more horrid diseases forming (from their own evolution). After that, the drug companies could be turned into a chaos of trying to find new cures, and people will be rioting and so on. Assuming this is a world wide epidemic, everyone accross the globe will
start following the rest of the crowds, and form up hysteria. One way or another this will push the world into a war for power. After the war, it would have been so engaged there wouldn't be much life left and it will slowly die out.
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| They gave the infomercial this morning at 7:00 or 7:30 or something on Comedy Central, guys!
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08-16-2005, 11:48 PM
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Yeah, I've got the book, my mom is currently reading through it. I believe with what he says. And proof? Do some research and you'll find your proof. I have no doubt in my mind that the FDA would withhold cures, when they are making millions on synthetic poisons. See, they can't patent herbs and natural cures, thus they can't get rich off of other peoples suffering, so instead they shoot down people who are actually trying to help people, and they pay off others to keep quiet. Don't you love America?
| ........... Yes, America is the only place that they make medical advances  . You know when drugs are ineffective? People stop using them. If someone discovers a cure, they tell everyone around about it, it's human nature to brag, you really think if someone found the cure to cancer they'd just 'keep it quiet'. Who the **** says all the most important cures are herbal? You're not likely going to find something that will cure a disease in many plants in your backgarden, so it's not like people will be making the cure themselves willy nilly. Yep they kept it so quiet that a shitty author found out, and he instead of doing anything useful just decides to make a book out of it. Quote:
When we first started off as humans we didn't have any medecine, so there wasn't a great demand for it. Now, there is a lot of medecine out there, and in a few more years we will have nearly everything cured and we'll be pretty set. After that, everything will be cured, and there will be more horrid diseases forming (from their own evolution). After that, the drug companies could be turned into a chaos of trying to find new cures, and people will be rioting and so on. Assuming this is a world wide epidemic, everyone accross the globe will
start following the rest of the crowds, and form up hysteria. One way or another this will push the world into a war for power. After the war, it would have been so engaged there wouldn't be much life left and it will slowly die out.
| In a few years? We can never combat viruses such as the flu effectively as the mutate all the time. Not everyone on the planet buys medication everytime they get ill. Virus's will mutate no matter what we do, although there has been virus's that have adapted to Antibiotics that have plauged hospitals before, I think we call them 'superbugs'. Half way through you're theory gets a bit messy as you've got a lot assumptions that are not necessarily likely to happen... If there was a terrible virus first of all any sufferers would be quarantined as soon as they are discovered, which could stop it in it's tracks. Sure staff of medical research institutes would work over time, but it wouldn't be 'chaotic'. If it does spread world wide, or to many cities the people would be asked to stay indoors untill a cure could be found. Even if riots started in some cities, the police/Armed services of such a country would be called in, to stop the situation escalating. With riots in there own cities I doubt any country would decide to declare war on another. They are more likely to share any information about the virus in hopes of tackling the problem quicker. If there was such a war and only a couple of thousand people survived then they would be able to start the human race. I guess my main point, when there's a deadly virus governments don't just decide "Hey, people are pretty pissed off here, lets start a World War that'll make them happier."
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Originally Posted by Thejanitor ........... Yes, America is the only place that they make medical advances | Medical Advances? Eh, more like Advanced Obituary Sign-ups. Quote: |
You know when drugs are ineffective?
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If someone discovers a cure, they tell everyone around about it, it's human nature to brag, you really think if someone found the cure to cancer they'd just 'keep it quiet'.
| You're not getting the point. They would only tell if they found some way to PROFIT from it, but they don't, becuase if they CURE cancer, there goes their cash flow. Are you even HUMAN? Do you know the MAIN DRIVE of HUMANS? GREED. Quote: |
Who the **** says all the most important cures are herbal?
| Not docters. And we've already discussed that. They can't get money from natures work. Quote: |
You're not likely going to find something that will cure a disease in many plants in your backgarden, so it's not like people will be making the cure themselves willy nilly.
| No, there is not ONE plant that cures all ailments. You know what we eat, breath, and drink? 100% altered chemicals, synthetic poisons. Now, you stop eating this processed crap that has absolutly no nutrition, and go on a whole fresh fruits and veggies diet, over a period of months, not a week, or a day, your body will expel all toxins in it, and heal itself of virtually any degenerative disease. If you'd get off your butt and research this stuff you'd prove yourself wrong. Quote: |
Yep they kept it so quiet that a shitty author found out, and he instead of doing anything useful just decides to make a book out of it."
| Dude, this stuff has been talked about for years. YEARS. That's smart. "Oh, I know the secret to all this disease, I can't do shit about it, so I'll WRITE A ****ING BEST SELLING BOOK THAT EVERYONE WHO CARES IS READING." Smart. Pull your head out of your ass.
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| And to comment on the bragging part. The FDA and FTC can sue people that do that because they are making a medical claim without evidence. And if you do have evidence the FDA and FTC and disprove it by saying flaws to the evidence.
Why do I think cures should be natural? Because many of the dieases these days are only happening to humans. Monkey's NEVER get heart attacks. Why? As the person above said, we're putting unnatural chemicals into our body and depriving our body of nutrition. Hmm, imagine a car that needs an oil change. (Human example: A headache or constipation) you ignore it and try to suppress the symptons by unscrewing the oil change light bulb. (Human example: taking aspirin) The car is going to go worse and worse until it finally breaks down. You take it to the car shop, the mechanic says your car can't be repaired. (Human example: your body is riddled with cancer)
Natural Cures is LOGICAL. The fact that drugs have so many side effects means SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THEM. Drugs are literally poison! Try taking overdosage and see what happens.
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