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Old 05-29-2007, 01:44 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Renzokuken View Post
It doesn't work like that. God does love us.

This is how it works. We're all sinners and none of us deserve to go to Heaven. But thanks to Jesus Christ dying for our sins, we're able to have everlasting life with God in Heaven.


If one rejects Jesus then one cannot be saved by His blood. What then can God judge us on? Our works. And our works will never be good enough to allow us into Heaven. If one isn't taken into Heaven with The Lord at judgement day he is left behind, with Satan (I could go deeper into this, but that's it in a nutshell).


Who are you to judge how many people will and will not go to Heaven? I can confidently say that it's gonna be alot more than just 1% of the world's population. I'm not saying i'm perfect, i suck just as much as the rest of us. I sin all the time, i can't help that. I am human. But i am saved by the blood of Jesus Christ. All of my past sins, the sins i'm committing now and the ones i will commit were carried by Jesus when he hung on the cross.

What i'm saying is, is that you don't need to be devout to get into Heaven. Now that's not to say you just accept Jesus as your saviour and then just go back to doing what you did before. God knows if it's genuine or not.



How is it God's fault that we ate the fruit? We're the ones that ate it. We were tempted and deceived by Satan. Seems like our fault to me.

Yes, it is God's fault that Satan exists. But what would you have God do? When Lucifer challenged God and wanted all the power and glory for himself (He thought he was better than God), God could've easily have killed him. But what then? If God had've destroyed Satan then the Angels would only worship him out of fear (Rather than love). Fear of being destroyed if they did what Lucifer did. So God instead threw Lucifer out of Heaven.
you just gg'ed me

on topic: ive accepted Gods righteousness. although i still cant see why he would ever impose an eternal consequence on us. i think its just the church trying to control us out of fear. my stance is still the same. God or no God, eternal punishment is absolutely wrong.
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