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Originally Posted by x42bn6  I am always of the opinion that a new civil war is bound to occur and that war is bad. However, people are starting to question even the things we take for granted. To me, this should be left for scientists - but people, heck, make a big deal about everything.* |
As a scientist-in-training, let me clarify what exactly it is a scientist does... A scientist observes, gathers data, analyses it, and then draws a conclusion. Real scientists do not go on ahead and tell you what you should be doing, but rather what would happen if (hypothetical scenario) happened. That is why its so damn hard to get a straight answer from any serious researcher scientist, as s/he will 99% of the time give you an 'it depends' answer. That being said, it
is very dangerous to take the word of
experts (you know, the ones we see on TV, not necessarily scientists, but economists, new age gurus, diet and fitness instructors) without a grain of salt. Sometimes we need to stop listening to experts (especially the ones who specifically tell us what to do) and make up our own minds.
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Originally Posted by Гражданин СССР Nah, that will never happen a civil war is bad for business, not like a war in a foreign country. The corporations controlling the US government will never allow a US civil war to happen, for one thing they'll make the very combination of words "Civil War" their trademark and sue anyone who says it publicly. On a more serious note, really, there is no way in hell there is going to be a civil war its a different time and there is no issue like slavery that had one part of the country divided from the other in such unison as slavery did in the American civil war in the 19th century. Don't worry though, there'll be bloodshed, the days of American Empire are coming to an end, the Chinese sons of bitches are moving in. |
True. The last Gulf War raked in billions of dollars in profits for US oil companies, as heightened insecurity in the Middle East caused the price of oil to skyrocket. No doubt that in the coming years of economic analysis we will also find that
this Gulf War (a.k.a. the iRaq war) has also resulted in favourable economic outcomes for the large American oil multinationals as well as defence contractors.
As to whether there will be civil war or not, this depends on whether the system is flexible enough to accommodate the will of the people, or whether big money from the corpos and the lobbies win out. If the general public find that the system cannot accommodate their needs enough, they may turn to violent means to have their voices heard. Remember, the US has not declared war since WWII, and Congress has preferred to call war 'authorised use of force' and, in the case of Iraq, the civil war is referred to an 'insurgency'. No doubt that if a civil war were to start in the US it would be (at first) referred to as an 'insurgency', and that civil war would not even be acknowledged at all until well into the conflict.