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- You can tell if something is reasonable not according to the the manjority or a minority, but depending on if the request is made with reason, and if it allow you to make use of your own reason. Knowing this, I would say that Straw's statement is reasonable, because he merely opened a debate with it, thus allowing us to use our reason to weight on the issue. What would have been excessive, or unreasonable, is if he would have ordered through an imperial decree the ban of the burqa, which would have prevented us the use of our reason.

- Whats make Straw right? You dont need to be right to make a reasonable request. Its only a mere request afterall. But it is always right to make one, or, at least, never wrong to do so.

- The signification of the burqa is offensive because it label me as primitive, barbaric man, who cannot control his urges, unless the woman is needlessly isolated from top to bottom. How does this point fit with your civil war exemple, I dont know. I dont understand it.

- I made myself the judge of what is right and what is wrong because I have the freedom to exercise and employ my judgement according to what is best for me and for others. Sapere Aude, a latin phrase that translate into "dare to know! Dare to be wise!" or "dare to use your own reason!" Contrary to what you may think, this is the very essence of western civilisation since the Enlightement, which can be traced back as far as Ancient Rome.

I am not attacking muslim culture, you're wrong. And those who say that this is all another defamation by the british government of its muslim community are merely demagogues of the most pitiful kind.

To wear the viel or the burqa is to put useless frontiers and bounds around the woman in reaction to an aberant perception of man. It is to limit the interaction between people, in the most explicit manner. And this, tipsy, is against western culture. I'm not asking muslim to drop their faith and become christian, I'm asking them to become western muslim, and to leave behind those useless cultural chains.

But you, x42bn6, and most folks on the political left, would leave them as they are, in their moral misery, simply because it is self-inflicted. People who think like you have twisted the values of freedom and self-determination that we own to the Enlightement, thinking that self-inflicted tyrany and ignorance is in accordance to western culture. But its not. If everyone would chose to give up the very system of belief that allowed them to chose in the first place, should we allow them? of course not!

Indeed, what did europeans do when they began to understand that they could think and act according to their own reason, and not according to a holy book or a divine ruler? They got ride of their cultural chains, and they've built a better, liberal society where individual freedom is respected and equality upheld. But now, would it make sense to let minorities, who are armed with the same principles of freedom and self-determination than us, chose to live in the opposite? In our own society on top of that?


When you're asking me who am I to dare to judge, are you insinuating that I'm not supposed to be able to make a judgement with nothing but my reason alone? Do you know when was the last time when an higher authority was obligatory need to back you, for you to express your opinion? During the Middle-Age.