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Originally Posted by Seraph How many complaints have we heard about Vietnam after we pulled out? None. Were they better off before or after we went in? Probably a little better, but not by a significant margin enough to corroborate what we're doing in Iraq is good.
Want to know what will stop the Iraq War? The election of a Democratic president. Just like in Vietnam, except visa-versa. That way, the Democrats can blame everything on the Republicans, instead of the Republicans pulling out of the war and saying, "Oops, we screwed up."
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Good? US Imprialism and Globalism is not good, it is a selfish attempt by US to promote US interests. If you think that Bush administration cares about the Iraqie people or that they went in for any other reason then personal and imperialistic interests you are truly blind my friend. I am not saying that Saddam was good, I am saying that Saddam wasn't a puppet of US. Look at Afghanistan, you got a nice puppet set up in where and what is happening? The average Afghanies start having Nastalgic feelings for the times then the Soviet ran the place. You know those crazy evil communists who build all the Afghani roads, many museums, supplied electricty to the whole nation (electricity in Afghani capitol right now only one day a week), but hey now they got they got "freedom" too bad their economy that was already shitty went into even deeper shit, too bad that the only way to survive for an average worker is to start growing opium. Same kind of thing is going to happen in Iraq if US has its way with that nation and it probably will. Its good that where is still Russia and China in UN Security Council purhapse the only two nations that are not currently US lackies.
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Originally Posted by Jim Morrison U.S tried to spread democracy, to "contain" the spread of communism. Also, what the U.S is doing in iraq right now is completley wrong. I'm pretty sure the citezens of Iraq don't want democracy. They probably only know how to live in a totalitarian state of goverment, trying to put them in anything else would make things worse then it was before.
That's my opinion.
As for the 30k being pulled out, they will probably be happy, lucky them.
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Everybody can happily live in a democratic nation, democratic nations are powerful and stable look at what happened to Russian Federation after the fall of USSR. It is an increasingly more stable democratic nations in next ten years our GDP is predicted to be half that of US and living standards are improving with the new national projects. Now what needs to happen in Iraq is getting the west out and letting the democracy grow. West is too biased, their main priority is not to have a democratic Iraq its to have a democratic Iraq that will give them bases in the middle east and that will be strongly pro-US. The west doesn't want a democracy in Iraq that would look out for Iraqie interests, it wants a democracy that would look out for the western interests. If US and its buddies let go off Iraq and let the democracy take its course then the nation will stabilize and what the deaths of the Coalition soldiers will actually mean something, if not, then they died for nothing atleast nothing important.