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Old 12-07-2005, 02:29 AM   #28 (permalink)
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-Tell me do you remember what you did when you were a fetus? A fetus has memory or thought process. It just sits there and lives off of the mother.
Tell me do you remember what you did when you were 3 weeks old? Again, I fail to understand your logic with this point you keep trying to make.

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-But yet @ every corner your trying to prove that it has legal rights? HAHAHAHA hypocrite alert.
Human beings are covered by national and international human rights. My point was in response to what I thought you meant by "legal documentation" - aka, a United States Citizen, which doesn't have anything to do with anything. If that isn't what you meant, I apologize. A fetus isn't a citizen, but it still is (read: should be) covered by international human rights.


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-Lemme see here. My logic... A women doesn't want to have a baby so she aborts it therefore saving her the risk of going into poverty and eventually having to take care of an unwanted child who will be born into poverty.
Your Logic: OMG LAdY TO ****ING BAD YOU HAD SEX SO NOW YOU HAVE TO KEEP THIS BABY NO MATTER WHAT!!!!! EVEN IF YOU DONT HAVE THE MONEY TO TAKE CARE OF IT AND YOU EVEN USED BIRTH CONTROLZZ!!!!
She ends a human being's existence to save her the "risk" of poverty? You don't see anything wrong with that picture?

My logic: A fetus is undeniably a human being. /end logic


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-Alright...I will again answer this question. Genetically; Yes ultimately a fetus will become a human being. Anybody who doesn't believe this is a moron who has no idea about the human reproductive cycle. The question is both a legal/ethical one. Ethically I see nothing wrong with destroying a fetus before the middle of the second trimester (It's a personal opinion that is never going to change). Primarily because I don't believe it to be of any value to keep alive. But I do have a problem with the second half and the third trimester....That's an ethical thing again. Legally, I would have to say no...the constitution never specifically gives rights to a fetus; nor does it give the government the right to force a women into pregnancy(Again this is an interpretation which I know some don't agree with).
* No, a fetus will not "ultimately become" a human being, it IS a human being, and anybody who doesn't believe this is a moron who has no idea about the human reproductive cycle.
* No one ever said it did. You have come up with that argument yourself. Not once has anyone in this thread, other than you, even SUGGESTED that the government has the right to force a woman into pregnancy. She made that conscious decision herself. The government should, however, "force" her not to kill the human being inside her, just as the government should "force" you not to kill your neighbor.
* Lol. Wow. You fail.
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Originally Posted by garshu1
but hink about this CAN God make a boulder so big that he cant lift it? or could he make that than the infinity gauntlets from zelda and move it then or maybe im just crazy but would someone make a golem out of that rock and conquor te world knowing that God couldnt move it. the point is you wither believe or not end of discussion end of flaming just be friends. and the universe is likea marble only movies can explain it roflmao.
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