[Lizardbreath]

Originally Posted by Tipsy

Please point out any of the genetic differences between a person when they were a fetus and a person now. In the human life cycle, it never changes. You are always genetically the same (unless changed by something from outside the human life cycle). What decides what a human is? Genetics, plain and simple. A fetus is a natural stage in the human life cycle. A fetus is a human, that is a fact.


Life cannot be taken away just because it will bring ‘bad’ stuff. As for c, put it up for adoption. As for most arguments here, what needs to be decided before any of these other arguments can be decided is if a fetus is a human. Without that decided, nothing else can be.


Once again, what makes a human is decided by genetics.


Unlike the death penalty, abortion denies the fetus due process (which we will decide whether it has the right to due process once we finish debating if a fetus is a human or not).


What’s the difference between a fetus that was chosen by the mother to be had and one that wasn’t? Aren’t they both human? (And this is addressed at Lights because for many other people the question of whether a fetus is a human or not is still up in the air).


This does not apply if the fetus is a human. That must be resolved first.


Let me fix your quote:

No hypocrisy there.


You cannot kill a human life for social reasons (at least not without due process). You should be debating whether or not a fetus is a human or not rather than these superfluous arguments that only dance around the issue.


I will fix your quote once again:



If I haven’t made it clear in my post then I will reiterate it here. None of these social argument matter the slightest bit if the question of if a fetus is a human or not is not resolved. If it is a human, social issues cannot take away its’ life (at least not without due process). If a fetus is not a human there needs to be no social argument against it because it has no rights. Debating these pointless social issues bring the this topic nowhere because they don’t matter if the big question is avoided. There should be one question that you should be answering with statements backing up your reasons:

Is a fetus a human?

Then you should be answering:

Yes, (insert information backing it)

Or

No, (insert information backing it)

Edit:
@ Lizardbreath


My question is how did you come up with your personal opinion. What is your reasoning behind it?
-Alright...I will again answer this question. Genetically; Yes ultimately a fetus will become a human being. Anybody who doesn't believe this is a moron who has no idea about the human reproductive cycle. The question is both a legal/ethical one. Ethically I see nothing wrong with destroying a fetus before the middle of the second trimester (It's a personal opinion that is never going to change). Primarily because I don't believe it to be of any value to keep alive. But I do have a problem with the second half and the third trimester....That's an ethical thing again. Legally, I would have to say no...the constitution never specifically gives rights to a fetus; nor does it give the government the right to force a women into pregnancy(Again this is an interpretation which I know some don't agree with).

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