09-19-2005, 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Tipsy Regardless of who brought up what, let's once again read what our government has decided about the establishment of clause:
"...The 'establishment of religion' clause of the First Amendment means at least this: Neither a state nor the Federal Government can set up a church. Neither can pass laws which aid one religion, aid all religions, or prefer one religion over another. Neither can force nor influence a person to go to or to remain away from church against his will or force him to profess a belief or disbelief in any religion..."
This is obviously doing at least one of the three, so I fail to see how anything about our government's decisions is on your side, other than the obvious presence of ignoring of its' own decisions by our government.
And I agree with Roach, answer this question: | There hasn't been a law passed to aid any churches....people are knitpicking the hell out of this under God..but people still refuse to complain about God being on our money! Satan is a God to the satanist, the supreme leader in their eyes...under God is for all religions..it is not a law passed to aid a church or religion! Pretty much every president has had a strong belief in some God..Bush speaks of God alot.
In 1943 the Supreme Court ruled that people could not be forced to salute the flag if doing so violated their religious beliefs. The Supreme Court decided that refusing to salute the flag posed no danger to patriotism and public order. The Court has not ruled against students praying on their own in school. Students are free to pray on their own at anytime and in any place ~ in or out of school. Congress acted in 1984 to allow students religious groups to meet in school. Under the 1984 Equal Access Act, student religious groups have the same right as other student groups to use public school buildings for meetings. The Supreme Court ruled that the Equal Access Act was constitutional as long as the clubs are created by students. In spite of the seperation of church and state, many official U.S. symbols and customs involve religion. The money you use bears the phrase In God We Trust. During certain holidays your local government may sponsor a religious display on publicly owned property. How do the courts apply the Establishment Clause to these situations? The Supreme Court has ruled that these references to God and to religious beliefs do not support religion as much as they recognize many Americans' deeply held beliefs. The Court has used this reasoning to rule, for example, that chaplains may open sessions of Congress' and of state legislatures with a prayer. In addition, holiday displays in which nonreligious figures such as Santa Claus share space with religious symbols like Nativity scens are constitutional. In general, the court has held that these long-practiced customs do not violate the Establishment Clause.
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