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Old 03-06-2005, 09:47 AM   #169 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lizardbreath
* The government isn't forcing anyone to have a baby. The woman chose to accept the risk of pregnancy by having sex. Personal opinion

* Exactly. The woman chose to have sex, and thus chose to accept the responsibility that goes along with it. Personal opinion


* Why would I want to do that? Seems to me like you're putting words in our mouths. Poor rebuttle


* Yes, it is their choice to have sex, and by having sex they have chosen to accept the potential consequences. You can't gamble all of your money, lose, and then refuse to pay the bill because it's not convenient. Personal thought by an example

-If you read a lot of his are personal opinions. I cannot give any legal reasoning for him to change his opinion. He is entitled to it as am I.
* This isn't a personal opinion. Did the government hire men to seek out these totally innocent women and rape them? No. They chose to have sex. This is not a personal opinion. Hell, it isn't even anywhere close to a personal opinion. It is a simple fact.
* That wasn't a poor rebuttal. You claimed that I might as well try outlawing sex, which is completely ridiculous and I have not once advocated such a position. Therefore, yes, you were putting words in my mouth. Again, a simple fact.
* They aren't personal opinions, they're facts. And I like how you ignored this point again, so this time I'll make sure you see it:

HUMANS ARE DEFINED BY GENETICS, NOT BY AGE OR BY PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS. A FETUS IS GENETICALLY IDENTICAL TO A HUMAN AND IS THEREFORE ENTITLED TO THE RIGHTS GUARENTEED TO IT BY OUR LEGAL SYSTEM. NOW ADDRESS THIS POINT OR YOU WILL HAVE LOST THIS ENTIRE DEBATE!
(Fun fact: our legal system doesn't solely protect actual citizens)

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Originally Posted by lizardbreath
When, by use of the dictionary, I prove you wrong.
But you didn't. I will quote the original set of definitions you posted. Tipsy stated that 'posterity' refers to all future generations. By posting your definitions you did not disprove his argument. Quite the contrary, actually, as can be seen by the part highlighted in lime, underlined, bolded, intalicized, and increased in font size. My original post only highlighted the definition you obviously ignored in red, but apparently that wasn't enough to make it stick out for you. Hopefully this will work.

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Originally Posted by lizardbreath
-Against your posterity argument
pos·ter·i·ty ( P ) Pronunciation Key (p-str-t)
n.
1. all of the offspring of a given progenitor
2. all future generations

-Now lets go on and look up offspring.

off·spring ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ôfsprng, f-)
n. pl. offspring

1. The progeny or descendants of a person, animal, or plant considered as a group.
2. A child of particular parentage.
3. A result; a product.

3. Progeny
prog·e·ny ( P ) Pronunciation Key (prj-n)
n. pl. progeny or prog·e·nies

1. One born of, begotten by, or derived from another; an offspring or a descendant.
2. Offspring or descendants considered as a group.
3. A result of creative effort; a product
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