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Originally Posted by Eclipse_Hope

i may piont out for every german killed at least 6 russians were killed and russia didnt really do all of the killing...the winter did.
germans shot on avergare 100 russia planes per 2 weeks at then end of the ffighting they started shooting down 20 per wkek becuz russia was geting better pilots and aricraft?
NO!
there were less planes 2 shoot down!
the only reason russia survies is becuz hitler was overexpansive

Ah no, they never shot 100 planes per week, where are you getting this? Yes Russian army was the one that did all the killing, or do you claim that winter has killed 2.4 million Germans, and 7.6 million Fins, Hungarians, etc? You really need to read about Eastern front, its quite interesting.

Originally Posted by Eclipse_Hope

US-even before they eetered the war the played a larger part then many countires did combined(i.e. lend-llease act even giving older ships 2 russia britian and australlia)

Ah, supplies don't win wars, armies win wars, also your supplies were not vital to anyone.

i may piont out that us envolvedment in the war was multi-frontal 2<== if thats a word

Actually its three, Africa, Italy and Normandy. All combined however only occumulated 20% of German armed forces, all the other 80% were on the Eastern front.

i may also piont out that before the winter devasted german troop casuties were at just over 1.5 million.....and the took 500,000 thousand square mile from rusia...somthing no country has eve accomlished and will never do so...
i may also piont out that germany was fighting a 3 front war.....3!!

Ah, no winter didn't kill 1.5 million Germans. Seriously, how do you expect anybody to survive if people just drop dead from the cold? Do you yourself believe in what you saying? And you claim that your education is better then mine? Seioursly? You're histerical

and american generals were unquestinably more tactful then any other(with expections of erwin rommel mayb,arguable)

=)

Really? Tactful? As is in they had manners? Or did you mean they had tactical ability? Yeah, sure.... well.... no they weren't. If you look at sheer numbers of tactical battles won, then Red Army is few hundred battles ahead of US army, of course we fought a war on a much larger scale and our enemy had much more troops then yours, but still. Also its not tactics that win the war, its strategy. Oh and if 75% of German mechanized divisions were not on the Eastern front, where was no way for you to win in Africa that fast, it would take you atleast 3 years, and invasion of Normandy would in no way be possible.

May i piont out that american canadian and british generals had real armies and didnt send there men suicidally into battle....
i may also piont out that we didnt lose entire generations of ppl just so war could be over quicker,
and we were also fighting japan ....... and not 2 years after.. u idiot
we were fighting them since the battle of midway in 1942.....
gg pwned

Isn't that what i said? 1942? Yeah i think so. Anyways, you saying that Soviet Union had an "imaginary army"? We didn't sacrafice a generation of people, where are still veterans around today, many of them.

and btw russia couldn;t handle wut germany sent either....who supplied u with 65% of your arms..
HINT: it wasn't russia or gemany!

Actually it was Russia, particularly the factories located just east of Ural mountains.

alos the fact is germany did have as many men in those beaches(veterans divivsions 2/panzer didvisions) but hitler was 2 be waked whe it occured.

Germany had 12 division on those beaches, thats against 12 american divisions (american division during that time was 20000 men, German one was 10000 men), while on the same day 45 German divisions, fought 63 Russian divisions.

there were just as many men in germany plus defences....the eastern front hd little defence becuz u were considered a small threat, and it was if not for the decisive and well thought threw victory by operation market garden etc.

We were considered a small threat? Thats why he sent most of his army after us? Get an education. Operation Barbarossa and invasion of USSR is Hitler's single most crucial mistake, once he invaded USSR Germany was doomed to fail. All the other fronts don't even come in comparison with the significance and the scale of war on the Eastern front.

Russia fought the Japan as well, we defeated one of their armies, you might say it had no effect, but we signed an agreement after the fall of Germany, under which we on request of Americans wouldn't invade Japan for 3 months after V-E day.